<p>OK, Dan. I'm putting you on the spot, here. As you must know, there is a thread in the Parents' Forum about ED numbers which lists various schools and the ED percentage compared to last year. Example: Brown is down X percent of ED applications compared to last year, while Yale is up X percent of ED applications compared to last year. With ED results coming just around the corner, everyone is trying to figure out what these numbers (up or down) may mean to each schools' acceptance rate for this early round.</p>
<p>When will Tufts release its numbers? </p>
<p>BTW, I do not have a child applying to Tufts early or otherwise. Mine is already there (a freshman) and LOVES, LOVES, LOVES it!! </p>
<p>I DO have a child applying ED, and it bothers me that numbers are available from many other schools, but not from Tufts. It makes it seem as if Tufts has something to hide. I think not releasing the numbers is a very bad policy.</p>
<p>Why would it be bad policy for Tufts not to release these numbers now? If the ED apps are up, that could certainly add to the usual through-the-roof level of anxiety some ED applicants suffer. If they are down, it might feed expectations of ED applicants, without really helping them at all. I expect the numbers, for both ED and RD, will be released in '09, but what is to be gained by releasing the ED numbers now?</p>
<p>Was that information actually released last year? I'm not so sure it was.</p>
<p>There is so much stress-causing information already available, that I find it difficult to believe that Tufts actually is concerned for students to be protected from this one extra fact about the admissions picture. I'm guessing that Tufts withholds this information either because ED applications have gone way down, or the percent of ED applicants accepted has gone way up, or both. The first would be bad for PR, and the second would look bad because the Tufts president has spoken out about the disadvantages of ED, both for the student and the college. I would be interested to hear what others think, and especially to get a response from Dan in admissions.</p>
<p>333-
The 2009 Princeton Review (which I suspect reflects figures for the Class of 2011, rather than 2012) shows a 32% ED acceptance rate for 1321 ED applicants. That same class had a total of 15,380 applicants, with a 28% acceptance rate (which is why I think this reflects the Class of 2011, as 2012 had a 25.5% admit rate).
Now, the 2006 Princeton Review shows a 45% admit rate for 551 ED applicants, with a total of 14,728 with an overall admit rate of 27%.
So at least based on the foregoing, your theory about ED apps being down or the ED admit rate being up is wrong (I wish I had the 2007 and 2008 editions of Princeton Review, but I don't).
Finally, as Princeton Review gets this info, it hardly looks like Tufts "withholds" it, it is simply too soon for it to be released. Tufts has TWO rounds of ED to deal with this year, and doesn't know yet how many will apply EDII, nor does it know what the admit rate will be. I suspect all numbers for the Class of 2013 will be released when that class matriculates next fall.</p>
<p>abkid91 -I have not seen comparative figures on EDI vs EDII.</p>
<p>mal18 - Applying ED (at just about any school, not just Tufts) can help for students who are really qualified (it won't help a damn if you're not), because (i) there is no better demonstration of sincere interest than applying ED, and (ii) ED helps a school's yield on acceptances, so that it need admit a lower percentage of students in order to fill a class, which plays nicely into USNWR's rating system.</p>
<p>but with Tufts, do we really know what determines whether or not someone is "qualified" per say?</p>
<p>I mean I know that SATs matter and all, but is it the end of the Tufts possibility if your within the 1700 - 1800 range? Does that make someone unqualified?</p>
<p>First, Tufts really focuses on the "traditional" two parts of the SAT; I think the Writing score counts little or not at all (which is why they don't even refer to it on their site).
Second, what I meant by "qualified" is that the applicant must be someone they would consider worthy of acceptance on RD (needless to say, all competitive schools have to reject a lot of kids who are worthy of acceptance; it's a numbers game). Of course, a lot of factors go into this, and SATs are just one. The high school transcript is the most important. ECs, essays and recs are important. That being said, I think that an applicant with 1700-1800/2400 (it would be more helpful to know____/1600) would have a pretty low chance of admission, which could only be outweighed by something extraordinary elsewhere in the application.</p>
<p>That's where I stand now, I retook them Saturday but I don't think there was any drastic change. My teacher says that I have a very good shot, and he is not one to embellish something or exaggerate it but he told me he is confident for me.</p>
<p>Well, as I'm sure you already know, the mean for this year's freshman class is about 1440, so 1130 would not be competitive.
Is there something extraordinary about your application that would offset your SAT scores?</p>
<p>I think that my essays were great, and my grades are all up to par. Again, I know how it works so I am being realistic and hopeful at the same time. I'll see what happens on Friday. I know what will happen so I don't like asking people to 'chance me.' But if it is truly a holistic process, then I have a shot.</p>
<p>where did you find that the freshman avg was 1440? that seems a little high.. both my books give me 1340-1480 as a mid-range. so i guess 1440's i there, nevermind. i just thought i was about average for tufts with a 1330 but i just realized im low for them :/ . and abkid, i hope they dont look at sat scores that much either, but applying ed will help us. also a quarter of their students are under 1340 (if those stats are right), so dont feel too overwhelmed by those scores.. itll just be hard.</p>