Yes, @Capricancer1 you’re right. Sorry it wasn’t clear - meant that neither of the kids went to Oxbridge, not that they both went to St Andrews. My DH is from the UK and the US holistic admissions system drives him batty. He makes comments about how corrupt our system is and the part about how even the royal kids don’t get an automatic pass into the top unis unlike the kids of famous people over here is what stuck with me.