<p>How is the workload of taking both EE40 and EE42 over the summer? I read the course descriptions and it seems like the material has a great amount of overlap. For anybody who has taken them in the regular semester, what did you think of the workload of each course and what grade did you get?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Why would you want to take both 40 and 42? 40 is a requirement for EECS, and 42 is a requirement for CS. You really only need to take one or the other.</p>
<p>If you just want to take both of them because you want to take 2 classes and you want to not have to do too much extra work from another course, then I would say the combined workload shouldn’t be that bad.</p>
<p>There is no point in taking both. EECS majors must take EE 40; [L&S</a> CS majors can take either EE 40 or EE 42](<a href=“http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_view_req?p_dept_cd=COMSCLS]L&S”>http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_view_req?p_dept_cd=COMSCLS).</p>
<p>Also, you get [no</a> credit for taking EE 42 after EE 40](<a href=“http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_list_crse_req?p_dept_name=Electrical+Engineering+and+Computer+Sciences&p_dept_cd=EECS&p_path=*]no”>http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_list_crse_req?p_dept_name=Electrical+Engineering+and+Computer+Sciences&p_dept_cd=EECS&p_path=*). Both are introductory electronics courses; EE 40 lists Physics 7B as a prerequisite but EE 42 does not.</p>
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My home UC campus requires that I take them both in order to receive credit for the comparable course.</p>
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That’s good to hear. Anyone else have the same opinion?</p>
<p>Which home UC campus?</p>
<p>^UCI. Have you taken these courses before or have any knowledge of the combined workload? It seems to me like the material has much overlap between the two courses.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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<p>That is there is overlap because EE 42 is a “light” version of EE 40 for L&S CS majors who have not had Physics 7B.</p>
<p>You may want to ask UCI why they want you to take EE 40 and EE 42, because UCB does not intend for people to take both (and you get at most 4 units of credit from both of them, even though EE 40 by itself is 4 units). Is the UCI equivalent course [EECS</a> 70A](<a href=“http://www.editor.uci.edu/09-10/engr/engr.9.htm]EECS”>UCI General Catalogue Archives)?</p>
<p>EE 40 workload is about comparable to Physics 7A, 7B, or 7C workload. EE 42 should be less, since it does not have a lab (although students who take EE 42 are encouraged to take the optional lab course EE 43).</p>
<p>EE40 is a joke during the summer.</p>
<p>both ee40 and ee42 cover way more than eecs70a. eecs 70a (based on the course description) appears to only cover the first 6 weeks of ee42 (im in ee42 right now)</p>
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What is the reason why you believe that is the case? Are summer courses not taught by regular UC Berkeley faculty? Or, were you being sarcastic?</p>
<p>summer courses are usually taught by GSIs, not faculty.</p>
<p>would EE40 and a software engineering internship (little to no commute, SF) be too much in the summer?</p>
<p>There is absolutely no need to take both EE42 and 40 together since the material covered is identical. This is like doing Chem 1A and 4A or Physics 8A and 7A simultaneously.</p>
<p>^Then why do they even offer both classes instead of opening up another section of the same class?</p>
<p>SL65AMG: Because some people need to take EE42, and some people need to take EE40…Different majors have different requirements…</p>
<p>^What I was saying is that why don’t they have both majors require one of the courses and eliminate the other course, since as UpMagic was saying that the two courses are identical?</p>
<p>The reason that there are two different courses is analogous to why there are different calculus, physics, chemistry, etc. courses. Those majoring in the subject or a closely related subject take one version, while those majoring in a subject that needs less in-depth knowledge can take an easier version (e.g. physics and chemistry for biology majors and pre-meds, or calculus for business majors). The easier version may have fewer prerequisites and may not fulfill prerequisites to as many more advanced courses.</p>
<p>It is not hard to see that EE 42 exists to give L&S CS majors an electronics course that does not require Physics 7B as a prerequisite. But many upper division EE courses specify EE 40, not EE 42, as a prerequisite, although CS 150 does allow EE 42 as a prerequisite. (Whether you agree with the idea of offering easier courses for some students is a different issue.)</p>
<p>I’m in 42 and my friend is in 40. There’s not that much difference (if any). Their example problems are certainly harder, but thats only because the current professor for 42 (Poolla) gives really easy questions. Otherwise, the concepts learned are almost the same. He also said that having physics 7b as background is unnecessary.</p>
<p>EE42/100 (its the same class) is mostly engineers and not L&S CS majors. So most people in 42/100 have learned physics 7b. However, one major difference is that we don’t solve diffeqs while in 40 I’d assume you do</p>
<p>EE 42 is the lab-less section of EE 100 (the lab portion of EE 42 is EE 43; EE 42 + EE 43 = EE 100). So, EE 42 is not identical to EE 100 in that respect.</p>
<p>I don’t know the nitty gritty details about the syllabus differences between 40 and 42, but it kind of makes sense to have a separate version of the class for the EECS folks (EE 40) and a separate one for the people that strictly need to take it for a requirement. Class size can also be a big issue if you combined the two into one.</p>