EECS Major Course Selection Help

<p>I'm a newly admitted EECS students, pretty set on pursuing the computer science option.</p>

<p>My problem is that I'm probably not going to be able to attend CalSo, so I would appreciate it if anyone could help me pick courses for this fall semester.</p>

<p>My AP test scores are:
Japanese: 5
World History: 5
US History: 4
English Literature: 4
Physics B: 5
Statistics: 5</p>

<p>The tests I've taken this year are:
English Language: 4 or 5
US Government: 4 or 5
Calculus AB: 5 (I'm pretty confident in this one)</p>

<p>I went through this year's calculus class without any problems, but I'm not sure if I should start at Math 1A or 1B. Would there be complications for me in the future if I choose to start at 1A?</p>

<p>Other than the math classes though, I'm basically at a complete loss for what I should take. Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
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<p>Math 1B
Physics 7A
CS61A
Humanities</p>

<p>Agree with JBeak12345. Since you already have a 4 on English literature, the humanities class should specifically be Reading and Composition B (unless you want to postpone that until next semester or something). Another option, if you want to take it easy your first semester, is to push either Physics 7A or CS 61A to second semester and add a second humanities class instead.</p>

<p>With a 5 on AP Calculus AB, the usual recommendation from the [Math</a> department](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html]Math”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html) is to take Math 1B. The [College</a> of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/new-students/choosing-an-appropriate-first-math-course.html]College”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/new-students/choosing-an-appropriate-first-math-course.html) has its own recommendations, including Math 1A and 1B final exams that you can try to test your knowledge of calculus in the context of the Berkeley courses.</p>

<p>JBeak12345’s suggested schedule is good. Math, Physics, and CS are essential prerequisites to later courses that you will take; taking them as quickly as possible gives you more schedule flexibility later. If you are not confident enough in your calculus knowledge to start in Math 1B (so that you take Math 1A instead), then you must wait a semester to take Physics 7A.</p>

<p>If you are highly confident in and really enjoy math or physics, there are honors courses Math H1B and Physics H7A offered.</p>

<p>For the “Humanities”, look up the [Humanities</a> and Social Studies Requirement](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/HSS%20MASTER%20List%202011-12.pdf]Humanities”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/advising/HSS%20MASTER%20List%202011-12.pdf) when choosing courses. With a 4 or 5 on AP English, you have R&C A fulfilled, so you can take an R&C B course.</p>

<p>Your AP credit can fulfill up to two (lower division) of the six H/SS courses needed. Of the remaining four, you need to include an R&C B course, an American Cultures course, two upper division courses, and a “series” of two courses from the same department with at least one upper division (you can use AP credit as a lower division course in the “series”). For example, History 120AC would count as an upper division course, an American Cultures course, and a “series” with your AP history credit (but only one of the total number of H/SS courses you need to take, so you would still need to take three more, including one more upper division course).</p>

<p>I tried going through those 1A finals, and there were definitely some problems that I didn’t get right. I feel like I should be able to breeze through all of the 1A exams, which sadly I’m not, so I’m leaning towards 1A. But in the long run, would that hold me back from efficiently fulfilling requirements for my major? Or is it worth the risk to try and take 1B so that I don’t fall behind in my coursework?</p>

<p>Also, with humanities, is there any way to fulfill both the RC B and the American Cultures requirements with the same course?</p>

<p>And if I were to take 1A and move Physics 7A to next semester, would taking a science elective, like it says in the engineering handbook, be helpful at all?</p>

<p>Thanks for all your help!</p>

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<p>If your Math 1A knowledge is weak, then it may be better to retake. Starting with Math 1A is nominally the “normal” sequence given in the catalog and sample schedules. However, you need to be very careful with scheduling, since some prerequisite chains can be long (e.g. Math 1A - Physics 7A - Physics 7B - EE 40 - EE 105 - EE 140 - EE 142 is a 7 semester long chain – if you want to eventually take EE 142, you need to plan your schedule carefully). Students who start more advanced in math can get a bit more “slack” in scheduling.</p>

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<p>[UCB</a> Online Schedule of Classes: Search Results](<a href=“http://osoc.berkeley.edu/OSOC/osoc?y=6&p_term=FL&p_deptname=--+Choose+a+Department+Name+--&p_classif=--+Choose+a+Course+Classification+--&p_info=AMERICAN+CULTURES&p_presuf=R&x=54]UCB”>http://osoc.berkeley.edu/OSOC/osoc?y=6&p_term=FL&p_deptname=--+Choose+a+Department+Name+--&p_classif=--+Choose+a+Course+Classification+--&p_info=AMERICAN+CULTURES&p_presuf=R&x=54) shows no courses for this fall that fulfill both R&C and American Cultures.</p>

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<p>The EECS major requires at least 11 units of science, including Physics 7A and 7B (see <a href=“http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Content/Chapter2.pdf[/url]”>http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Content/Chapter2.pdf&lt;/a&gt; ). Since none of your AP credit counts for this, taking a science elective (from the list there) would help complete this requirement. However, one of the more common ones, Physics 7C, would have to wait until after Physics 7A and 7B.</p>

<p>Thanks for the help again, I think I’m going to take Math 1A just to be safe.</p>

<p>So far, I’ll be taking CS 61A and Math 1A for sure. I’m also thinking of taking Rhetoric 1B to get the RC requirement out of the way, and for my other class I’m thinking of possibly taking CS H195. The CS H195 can fulfill both the Humanities and Social Sciences requirement and the EECS ethics requirement so it seemed like a good idea, but can anyone tell me more about this class? Also, other than Rhetoric 1B, what humanities classes could you guys recommend?</p>

<p>You will be able to finish your EECS degree in 4 years even if u start off with Math 1A, but just realize that you will be behind your peers by a good amount. Most EECS majors start with math 53/54</p>

<p>JBeak12345, what would that mean for me in the long run? What benefits will those ahead of me in math have that I won’t have?</p>

<p>I don’t know how it’ll affect your long run since I just finished my first year. But I can say that by starting math / physics late and thus EE later, you’ll meet less of your EECS classmates. It should be fine. I’d recommend skipping whatever you can skip</p>

<p>I’ve put together my planned schedule here, and I would appreciate any feedback on it: <a href=“http://i51.■■■■■■■.com/snjhjb.jpg[/url]”>http://i51.■■■■■■■.com/snjhjb.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I realize that I’ll only be able to sign up for two courses at CalSo, so which two should I sign up for? And if I cannot attend CalSo, is it unlikely that I’ll be able to get a schedule like this?</p>

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<p>More schedule flexibility (e.g. you don’t have to take courses in long prerequisite chains on as strict as schedule) and extra free electives (e.g. someone who starts in Math 53/54 effectively gets two extra free electives (though often later rather than immediately) instead of Math 1A/1B).</p>

<p>Regarding your schedule, have backup course selections that you are willing to take in case your desired courses are full. For example, other lectures and discussions of Math 1A and CS 61A. Also, every possible R&C B course and other H/SS courses that you are willing to take.</p>

<p>Regarding time of day, you may want to avoid scheduling class times during “siesta time” or “post lunch drowsiness” (approximately noon to 2pm or 3pm for most people) when you have an urge to nap. Feeling drowsy during class will be harmful to your ability to learn the material taught in the class. (Yes, I am referring to your choice of Math 1A discussion and CS 61A discussion and lab – these are the most important courses for your major, so you do not want to be falling asleep in them.)</p>

<p>Another option for math if you know most of Math 1A well but are weak in just a few areas is to self-study the parts that you are weak at and then take Math 1B.</p>

<p>your schedule is probably the easiest EECS schedule I’ve ever seen</p>

<p>Yeah, no offense, but if you feel stressed out on that schedule, I’d be kinda scared for you in future semesters. I’d suggest taking an easier R&C course though; Anything along the lines of German R5B, Asian Am Studies R2B, or whatever fits your schedule. Avoid anything like English or Rhetoric because there harder to earn A’s in than the ethnic (for lack of a better term) counterparts.</p>

<p>Thanks for all your help, I’ll keep the thing about the ethnic R&C courses in mind. </p>

<p>Which courses should I try to sign up for at CalSo then? It seems like I don’t need to worry about not getting into CS61A or Math, since those classes are huge. Also, at CalSo, do we register for the lab and discussion classes as well, or only the lecture portions of the course?</p>