<p>California students are guaranteed admission if:</p>
<p>-You rank in the top 9 percent of California high school students, according to our 2012 admissions index.
-You rank in the top 9 percent of your graduating class at a participating high school. We refer to this as "Eligible in the Local Context" (ELC).</p>
<p>Wow, the class of 2012 is lucky. First, they don't have to take two SAT subjects, now this?</p>
<p>Wasn’t it 4% before?</p>
<p>The class of 2012 is not lucky. If you do not make the top 9% You will not get into a UC. Many competitive h.s. in Cal are going to force alot of great students out of state and this will “dummy down” the great UC system. My d and s came from a highly competitive orange county h.s. both with 3.77 gpa’s and they were in the 29th%. To make the top 9% in an api 10 rated h.s. in cal. You need a 4.3 minimum. My d is a senior at UCSD and has seen two elc roomies from small cal. h.s. flunk out in one quarter. They were smoked academically. My s is a senior and has gotten into ucsb, ucdavis and will take a nice offer from Minnesota. These kids will leave Cal. and never come back and the UC system will become the csu system. The 9% elc is the kiss of death for the uc’s/</p>
<p>@popeyoung5 “If you do not make the top 9% You will not get into a UC.”</p>
<p>I think the policy means it’s guaranteed if you make it to the top 9%, not you can only get in if you’re top 9%. Usually ELC students get to know if they made it into the school of their choice early. And when it was 4%, most of them got into UCD, UCI, UCSB, UCR, and UCM.</p>
<p>Do the math, if you reserve a seat for more then double the current 4%? sorry the music stops and no more chairs left.</p>
<p>Besides the subject tests, these are the big changes; to me it means the ELC pool might expand, but the overall pool might shrink.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/counselors/freshman/fall-2012/index.html[/url]”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/counselors/freshman/fall-2012/index.html</a></p>
<p>"Who receives guaranteed admission</p>
<p>Within this pool of applicants, two categories of students will be guaranteed admission somewhere in the UC system:</p>
<pre><code>* those who fall in the top 9 percent of all high school graduates statewide
<ol>
<li><p>The share of students who are guaranteed admission based on their rank in their own high school class will grow (9 percent vs. the current 4 percent).</p></li>
<li><p>Fewer students overall will receive an admission guarantee (10 percent of high school graduates vs. 12.5 percent now), but nearly all students who would have received this guarantee under current policy will be entitled to a full review by their campuses of choice under the new policy.</p></li>
<li><p>Under the new policy, students who become eligible by examination will not be guaranteed admission. They will, however, be entitled to a full review of their application. Students who take this path must complete two SAT Subject Tests in two different subject areas"</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Wow, I rest my case. This sucks for the class of 2012 and beyond. =(</p>
<p>I wonder how many of those kids who get in ONLY because of ELC will actually be in a position to attend. </p>
<p>My D ('08) was not ELC. She was maybe number 4 or 5, in a tiny school where only three kids got that designation. She got into all the same schools anyway.</p>
<p>But yeah; it’s setting kind of hectic.</p>
<p>almost all with the calgrant money thrown around. This will make the bar for ucla, ucsd, and ucb even higher. The rest of the uc’s become csu-________ and really good students will be forced out of state, which in many cases costs the same as a UC anyway. If my kid was a current junior, I would be applying to many out of state schools next year. The shockwave is coming for the 3.75/31 act/ 8 ap/ 29th% kid from a top h.s. Bye Bye UC-</p>
<p>“almost all with the calgrant money thrown around.”</p>
<p>Do you have any numbers on that? Most kids at my kids school cant seem to afford UC’s and it’s a “private school.” GC tells them to go to CC first and then transfer.</p>
<p>2012ers are unlucky? they don’t even have to submit the SATIIs anymore…
Besides, I don’t think ELC applies to all UCs…
If they do, they are really going to screw up the system, cuz there will just be too many of them…</p>
<p>I really don’t think that this 9% thing is going to be as crazy or world-ending as you’re all making it seem. These top 9% kids don’t get guaranteed to any one specific UC–they’re guaranteed to A UC, somewhere. That could be Davis, Riverside, etc… probably one of the schools that last year’s ELC students would be eligible for. And these top kids are the ones who would be probable to be admitted to these schools in the first place!</p>
<p>The only downside I see is that ELC kids don’t know which campus they’ll be admitted to (like when we knew we were admitted to UCSB, UCR, UCD, UCI, and UCM or something like that) but popeyoung5 seems just so misinformed and pessimistic and assumptive. The world will go on and this is in no way the “kiss of death” for the UC system.</p>
<p>Getting ELC status does not guarantee you a spot to a list of UC’s! It says that if you’re in the top 9% of your high school, you will get into at least ONE UC. Not all of them. There are plenty of spots available still. UC’s are still a good option for applicants next year–I don’t see this shift in numbers changing anything.</p>
<p>They are so lucky. I would have gotten ELC by a long shot if that was the case. I was only two spots away…</p>
<p>^You did fine.</p>