<p>hey, do any of you guys know more about the future of electrical engineering?</p>
<p>i'am hearing rumors that their demand is decreasing slowly, is that true?</p>
<p>my uncle says theres no point in going into E E, he says the demand is just down. I just can't believe him. My cousin wants to major in that but he is confused because of his father (my uncle).</p>
<p>From the US labor website:</p>
<p>Electrical engineers should have favorable employment opportunities. The number of job openings resulting from employment growth and from the need to replace electrical engineers who transfer to other occupations or leave the labor force is expected to be in rough balance with the supply of graduates. Employment of electrical engineers is expected to increase about as fast as the average for all occupations through 2014. Although international competition and the use of engineering services performed in other countries may limit employment growth, strong demand for electrical devices such as giant electric power generators or wireless phone transmitters should boost growth. Prospects should be particularly good for electrical engineers working in engineering services firms providing technical expertise to other companies on specific projects.</p>
<p>thats just BLS, i mean is that really any accurate?</p>
<p>"Prospects should be particularly good for electrical engineers working in engineering services firms providing technical expertise to other companies on specific projects."</p>
<p>i guess thats the good news in E E (basically kinda like consulting)</p>
<p>AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION MUST BE THE BAD NEWS</p>
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<p>it's by the United States Department of Labor...how accurate are you looking for :rolleyes:</p>
<p>well their salary range isn't exactly accurate...its a little low</p>
<p>which source do you trust for salaries? the salary range from EEs is usually 50-55K but fluctuates depending on the location...</p>
<p>i hope u meant for starting BS</p>
<p>yes for starting with a BS</p>
<p>Demand is very strong for Electrical Engineers!</p>
<p>any proof or expalnation for that buddy....</p>
<p>tom725: before he attempts to prove that (which is impossible) how about you ask your friend's uncle to prove that the demand for EE is decreasing :rolleyes:</p>
<p>All I can say is that all of the EEs we graduate get hired right away. Everything I've heard nationally indicates strong demand for EEs.</p>
<p>gee you are right i should ask him....but everyone in my family belives him coz hes a M.D. ppl like me are nothing if i come to disagree.</p>
<p>i'm majoring in eng. but he always tells me and my cousins to go into pharmacy or pre-med because of the huge demand there and also the money.</p>
<p>what do you think i should tell him about the demand in eng.?</p>
<p>i mean my uncle just blindly just belives that thers nothing in eng. how do prove the opposite to a guy like this?</p>
<p>and another uncle of mine who used to be a civil eng. just changed proffesions to pharm.d.
this has made my mom belive thers absolutely no demand in eng.</p>
<p>i come frm a family thats kinda "don't major in eng. its pointless" like that.
i want to major in biomed and i am but thers always some comments frm family members which makes me so frustrating and also nervous about my career in the future.
because of this i have nightmares where i graduate frm college and i get no job at all and i just live w/ my parents.</p>
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<p>yea, he seems like the right person to go to for information about engineering :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Engineers usually get jobs right out of college because of the profession's demand...it's probably the only major where graduates from even unknown colleges don't have too much difficulty in finding a job, i.e. if they have a decent GPA and other skills. Also, Engineers go to work for a variety of companies (finance, trading etc.) so even if there is a slump in demand one shouldn't have that much trouble finding a job.</p>
<p>i exactly tell my family what you just said to me!!</p>
<p>EE's have some versatility..</p>
<p>but the cons are:</p>
<p>1) jobs easily off-shore-able, now there is india and china,
later on there'll be Russia and Brazil and Mexico...Etc...all with huge population Waiting to be Exploited</p>
<p>2) No Stability. expect to get Laid off and move from 1 city and another, or
1 continent to another every 4 or 5 years (And this is THE RULE, not the exceptions)...try doing
that when you already have or want to have a family.</p>
<p>3) Salary max out at 6 figure, and when you reach that 6
figure, you can start worrying about get right sized
everyday. How many managers do you need for 10+ engineers, are you willing to roll the dice ?
Even if you do manage to become an engineering manager, you think you'll be safe ?<br>
Didn't Intel just recently Right Size 1000+ Managers few days ago ?</p>
<p>4) Age Descrimination. you must have heard Senior Engineers with 15+ yrs of Experience, willingly taking a 40%+ pay cut just to keep the mfking stinking job... or get replaced by a new grad who's more than happy to take the 40% less salary.</p>
<p>5) And etc...</p>
<p>Don't feed the troll. Nobody say anything.</p>
<p>Tom, I want to recommend actual sources of data and not rumor and opinion of non-engineers. This is a good practice professionally as well. On an earlier thread, I posted numbers from salary.com. Here's what I said:</p>
<p>Salary.com differentiates experience into five levels. Level I is just out of college, and Level V is between 8 and infinity years of experience. There are also three levels of "Manager", but the data is suspect. Managers, in their data base, earn only a few thousand more than level V engineers.</p>
<p>Not all engineering disciplines are represented because this is taken from hiring data (and not from academic departments). Thus, this is the market "signal" about the demand, and not the supply signal.</p>
<p>Here's the data (annual salary in thousands):</p>
<p>Level BME....OR......Civ E........EE
I.......50.3...58.3......54.7.......58.4
II......58......71....... 66.6.......69.8
III.....70.5....89........80.4........83.9
IV.....82.3....116.2....93.5.......95.1
V......95.5....132.6....100.8......110.7</p>
<p>Now, my experience is in the OR column (that's Operations Research). I think those numbers are accurate for my little corner of the engineering world. I know some EEs, and I think that's reflective of the demand there as well.</p>
<p>I think you should approach bio-E with a great deal of caution. I looked up BME and included the numbers because I knew you were interested. To me they indicate a lukewarm market at best--especially compared to everyone else! </p>
<p>You may have a know-it-all uncle who makes it hard to state your case, but it's YOUR career in the end. You have a duty to yourself to research the facts. You will deeply regret it if you choose based on opinion and emotion. I speak from experience, there, Tom!</p>
<p>airbear is a girl.</p>
<p>whoops. i just fed the troll. sorry airbear. wasnt thinking</p>