<p>So your saying there's no difference between an A in Chem 153H and Chem 153?
For non science majors, I can see why. For science majors, those upper division classes isn't exactly a walk in the park.<br>
Graduating with any honors is significant, and my stance on that stands. There's obviously different ways of doing so, and each method has its level of difficulty and thus garner different amount of respect (I'm pretty sure you agree that graduating with honors through being a part of just the honors program isn't as impressive as Latin honors). I know this isn't part of the thread, but if you graduate Summa Cum Laude as a science major (esp. MIMG), that is an extraordinary accomplishment itself. My advice is to check it out and see if this program is right for you or not. Keep in mind that there's a 216 Units Max policy (although some classes like 89 seminars are omitted in the claculation of the unit max). If you want to double major, or double minor... you might want to reconsider and plan it out. There's the good,there's the bad. I have respect for the program, so my input isn't completely objective.
One thing I do hope you all would agree is that the honors counselors are sometimes good, sometimes bad (i.e. the woman honors conuselor who I won't name here). Nonetheless, one perk is the fact that you have access to a real counselor your first 2 years instead of counsling assistants (who are graduate students). My counseling assitant overlooked the fact that I have 2 units of required Social science GE. As good as he is, there are some rules that he simply isn't aware of. It was the honors counselor who said that I didn't have to take an extra GE class. ALl I need to do was to comeback and see a counselor in the honors office and they'll waive the requirement before I graduate. What I'm trying to say is that if you are in honors, you do have an additional source of resource. Ultimately it's your call, but if you want to maxmize the amount of resource you have, then join it (even if it's just a little bit more).</p>
<p>Tony, when you said,</p>
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<p>what did you mean by that? Honors isn't a great option for people with double majors/minors?</p>
<p>Also about the other colleges, UCI's and UCSD's seem a bit more impressive to me. But then again, this is based off of brochures/websites...</p>
<p>I meant that for people who like to explore (taking extra classes), and then finally figure out that they want (i.e. major + double minor) but at the same time squeeze in some honors classes, it would be tough. But now that I think of it, that's not right. Most honors classes have overlaps (i.e chem 20AH for example), as wells as research (i.e. SRP or 199). Nevermind about what I said about the Unit max. Plus you can always petition, and that shouldn't be a problem as long as the reason is legitimate. Thanks for pointing that part out. Ooops. Sorry 'bout that.</p>
<p>Tony, latin honors and college honors are two completely different things. And I've only gone to see the honors counselor once and it was very disappointing and useless, so I just and continue to see my departmental counselor who is more helpful by leaps and bounds</p>
<p>I know!
In regards to the counselors, it depends who you manage to get. The majority of them aren't great... I think their attitude is this: you're in honors, you should be able to handle this. But there is one guy that's been very helpful. On the other hand, ms. Martin @ the office isn't useful...atleast when I went to see her. I do like the departmental counselor more (I just went to see mines on Thursday afternoon lol)</p>
<p>I actually saw Ms. Martin at that time and she just left a horrible impression on me because it was utterly useless and a waste of time (gained nothing whatsoever). Maybe I just had to try another counselor</p>
<p>Can someone please explain if the Honors Program is a sure thing to get if one is eligible to apply for it? Also, what are the exact benefits of the program? I really need to decide between schools and this info would really help me. Thanks! :)</p>
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<p>There's not much else you can explain</p>
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What schools are you deciding among, what are you majoring in, and what are you plans after college?</p>
<p>I don't think I'm eligible at all, in any way, for priority scheduling.....am i screwed??</p>
<p>besides honors program and clusters, what are the other ways someone would be able to get priority registration.</p>
<p>What I meant was like if I applied for the Honors program am I definitely going to get it or is there a possibility of not getting it?</p>
<p>Also, my major is going to be Biochemistry and I'm trying to decide between Cal, UCLA (with the Honors prog. which is why i am asking about it), UCI (Honors Program with Regents), and USC.....</p>
<p>And for those who are in the Honors at UCLA, does it seem to be truly beneficial. Will I be able to get research opportunities or anything special through it like at UCI's program for instance?</p>
<p>Sorry...It's just so hard to figure this whole thing out.....</p>
<p>katherine, I don't think you'll be screwed. Just be prepared to get frustrated that your planned schedule won't work often times and have to pick other classes accordingly to enroll in. But then again, it's not like you won't run into that problem either if you do have priority.</p>
<p>gogogo, if there are other ways, I'm sure that you'd know about it by now. But some other well known ways includes Regents and athletics.</p>
<p>Interpol,</p>
<p>Im in honors so I think i can help you out...</p>
<p>I was told that as long as you simply write the essay that is required, you are in. They just want to know you actually want to be in the program thus they make you write an essay. It doesn't have to be good or anything</p>
<p>Honors is really only useful for three reasons. First is priority registration. A lot of people here have priority (though AAP, regents, etc) so not having priority will usually delay your registration for classes about a week till first pass. </p>
<p>Second is that it will always be on your transcript so whenever you apply for jobs, internships, etc you will be able to further differentiate yourself.</p>
<p>Third is that you can get help from Honors counselors. From my experience they are usually much nicer and more helpful than the regular ones because they know you are pretty motivated and intelligent.</p>
<p>The downside of it is that most honors classes do not fulfill GE's (Clusters are the exception) and there quite a few classes you will have to squeeze in your schedule to graduate with honors.</p>
<p>I got into the Honors program, but I'm wondering whether the program can kick you out after they see that your avg. GPA has dropped senior year. Or if I'm in b/c of my sophomore/junior grades + my 2100 SATs, am I still qualified for the program?</p>
<p>if you plan your classes well, you can minimize the impact of extra honors classes on your schedule.
for instance, this year i took a GE cluster (15 honors units), honors collegium course (4 honors units, and half of collegium requirement), and am currently taking stats 10 with an honors section (6 honors units).
total: 25 honors units, out of 50 taken the whole year.
all you need is 44 units, so i need only 19 more over the next three years. you need to take a minimun of 8 units per year. which means i'll be taking 5 extra units, i suppose, but the honors collegium courses make it soooooo worth it! seriously, i had a discussion section (in a class i loved) of 4 people.
also, there are some common GE classes that offer honors sections (for instance, stats 10 and comm 10) so if you take those classes, you add one more unit on top of it (5 plus 1) and then you get all 6 units as honors.
...all it takes is some careful planning, and then you get benefits that i think are very worthwhile. that said, it's not for everyone: some people already get priority enrollment, and might just want to take honors collegium courses without being in the program. the counseling aspect, i have to say, is nice however... more personalized and easier to access (less people are able to use it).</p>
<p>One more question for current students....is it relatively easy to find research opportunities at UCLA like for people interested in laboratory research in biology?</p>
<p>bump?......</p>
<p>hey guys, if i dont get the honors program as an entering freshman, and get in during the 2nd quarter of my freshman year, do i still get all the privileges of the honors students who got in college honors in the beginning of their freshman year?</p>
<p>Yes you do</p>
<p>sorry if this is a stupid question but... how do you qualify for the honors program after starting your classes? i thought it was a one shot thing (as in you have to meet the requirements before you start your first year) is it a gpa thing ?? or something else?</p>