email to apply to ISP (NOrthwestern)

<p>My son got an email suggesting he apply to the integrated science program. Does this mean anything re his admssions chances, or just something they send to many applicants? Thanks</p>

<p>got one too; I think they send them to everyone who applied to math or science.</p>

<p>thank you</p>

<p>My S just got one too. I’d love to know if anyone who applied to math or science didn’t get one. It seems odd that they would send them to everyone who applied to those majors. UMich, for example, only sent them to some applicants even though anyone can apply for consideration. Of course each school is different…</p>

<p>sorry, what did UMich send to only sone applicants? thx</p>

<p>UMich didn’t send an invitation to apply to their honors programs to all applicants (at least as far as I can tell from CC and talking with other kids who applied). Sorry I wasn’t clear about that. Of course, UMich’s Honors Program is for the whole School of Literature, Arts & Sciences. They don’t have a specific honors science program within the school.</p>

<p>oh, ok,thanks. When does that arrive relative to when acceptance is communicated? same email?</p>

<p>He got accepted Mid-december to UMich (EA), got the invitation to apply to honors less than a week later, then got the acceptance to honors a couple of weeks after that.</p>

<p>Got one too. I am thinking perhaps the applicants who have 3 required sat II scores recieved the mail??</p>

<p>That would make sense. My S submitted Math II, Physics and Chem SAT IIs.</p>

<p>I got one today, but did not send scores for SAT IIs.
I do, however, have the college credits for Calculus, Chemistry, and Physics.</p>

<p>Anyone have a more definitive answer to the question: “Does this mean I got into NU?”</p>

<p>My S also has college credit, including 10 hours of Org. Chem and labs.
If anyone on CC says they applied for a science or math major and DIDN’T get invited, then maybe the invitation means those who got invited did get in. Just guessing, though.</p>

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<p>Nope, because I didn’t send in the required ones, but I still got one.</p>

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<p>Definitely not.</p>

<p>that’s weird. I kinda applied math though I think I will change to economics afterwards. Besides, I sent three SAT II scores (M, P, C) and they are pretty awesome. However, I didn’t receive that email. I don’t know if it’s because I have already been accepted by MMSS. just mention it. I’m not planning to apply ISP actually.</p>

<p>I got one of these too. I was surprised because I applied to McCormick and the program is for WCAS, I actually doublechecked my common app to make sure I applied to the right school</p>

<p>I have a feeling they sent it to everyone because there was an issue with my application in which my guidance counselor messed up sending my transcript and recommendations. They sent an E-mail telling me that they had not yet received these items on Monday, then sent another e-mail Thursday now saying they had everything, and then yesterday I got the ISP e-mail. </p>

<p>I mean maybe they saw my application and were like “Woah this kid is amazing” but I doubt it. NU is a high target school/Slight reach for me.</p>

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<p>Wait, it’s only for WCAS? Yeah, I also applied to McCormick…hm.</p>

<p>Let me see if I can answer some of these questions, as my S is a freshman in ISP (Integrated Science Program.)</p>

<p>Yes, ISP is in WCAS (Weinberg College of Arts & Sciences.)</p>

<p>No, getting an app for ISP does not mean you’ve been admitted to NU. You receive an admission to NU first and then, about a week later, you hear from ISP.</p>

<p>Note that the due date for ISP is well after the deadline for NU itself. It may be designed this way, so ISP can send out applications to those they are interested in, I don’t know.</p>

<p>I get the impression from my son that ISP is less well know than MMSS (Mathematical Methods in the Social Sciences) although both have been around about as long, around 30 years. MMSS admits more and allows admits in the sophomore year. ISP admits less (they look for a class around 30) and if you want it, you must start freshman year. The program is designed in such a way to make it simple for a student to arrange to double major, in ISP and one other area, typically but not always another science or math.</p>

<p>My son says ISPers are a tight group and get equal respect from the McCormick engineering majors with respect to the rigor of the ISP. ISPers, even given the small size of the program, have their own small building, a renovated house just across the street from the Tech Center. They take their computer programming classes here, study here as an alternative to the library or dorm room, hang out here. Every ISPer gets a key to the building.</p>

<p>Freshman first quarter, ISPers get a non-credit seminar that meets ever other week to discuss research options, how to do it, how to approach a professor. My son said ISPers were advised to include in any email header “ISP student interested in XXXX” because faculty love working with these students.</p>

<p>My husband, a math professor at USC, was able to vet this program pretty well. He knows one math prof at NU who helps found the program, and works now with a math prof who left NU a few years ago for warmer climes. Both give the program excellent reviews for its interdisciplinary approach to science, which is what my son wanted.</p>

<p>Check out their web page at the NU site. It’s not as in depth as the MMSS one, probably because they are too busy doing science to toot their own horn. However, the web page does a good job in showing what kind of research and internships ISPers can get.</p>

<p>^ Thanks for that great info. Do you know if the invitation is selective, so it only goes to top candidates, or if everyone who shows an interest in science majors get one? Any ideas why some propsective business majors got the invitations? Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>chemcolo, I believe they are looking for students who have a strong math background who may have shown an interest in interdisciplinary study (which, I discovered later, that NU is incredibly strong in across the spectrum, not just in ISP.) My son had already completed linear algebra and was successfully working on multivariable calculus at the time he made his application to NU. I’m uncertain he would have chosen NU if he didn’t get in to ISP, but obviously he did. One of his application essays spoke of his interest in ISP.</p>

<p>By your screen name, do I take it you have an interest in chemistry? NU has one of the top chemistry departments in the country. I’m not sure what my son will take as his second major with ISP. Originally, he thought physics. Lately, he seems to be thinking math which, incredibly, only requires three more classes beyond which he’d have with ISP to get the second major.</p>

<p>Here’s what I’ve hear about ISP. It’s not getting in the program that’s the hard part, it’s completing the program that is. However, if you can do it, you’ll be among a very selective group of students and I’ve heard the head of the program really goes to bat for the students when it comes time to apply for grad school, etc. ISPers do well beyond NU.</p>

<p>Think about it. If you’re interested in science, then you know that some of the most interesting, cutting edge, breakthrough research is happening more and more where two or more sciences intersect. This is where a program like ISP can prove it’s value.</p>