<p>Dont be discouraged by a lot of malarkey about whether you did or did not take enough IB classes. Most American high schools dont offer IB classes and they dont want to offer them. The only way to guarantee that youre not accepted is if you dont apply. Sure, academic rigor in high school counts for something, but if elite colleges like Emory wanted to fill the campus with workaholics who study 5 to 7 hours per day and have their souls sucked out of them, they could do so. They want well-rounded smart kids within their profile who add something interesting to the college community. If you reach your SAT goals, you know that you will be just below the 50% mid-range of admitted students at Emory. Write great essays, show demonstrated interest, and if you come from a less-affluent family background, that will only help with your application because colleges consider your circumstances in life when they consider your GPA, SATs, etc. I would suggest applying to Oxford as well.</p>
<p>I am applying to Oxford. </p>
<p>Btw, If I ED to Emory, am I EDing to Oxford too? Or can I fill out separate application dates for them on the common app.</p>
<p>And thanks a lot everyone for yourself.</p>
<p>Step 2 says “Mail returns to the Office of Financial Aid by certified mail in time to meet the November 15th deadline. We will review your file and make your aid award after the tax returns are received.” Do Step 1 first, and Step 3 if appropriate. I think it’s pretty clear. :)</p>
<p>“Sure, academic rigor in high school counts for something, but if elite colleges like Emory wanted to fill the campus with workaholics who study 5 to 7 hours per day and have their souls sucked out of them, they could do so.”</p>
<p>And they do.</p>
<p>Most schools don’t wanna offer IB because it takes A LOT of work to set up. Too much work.</p>
<p>As for saying that the 5 AP kid would be placed in the same line as the 15 AP kid, I wonder why they even bother with IB if they both are gonna be considered the same even though the 5 AP kid probably did 999999 hours less studying compared to IB students. Which is interesting, because it seems that students should move into easier high schools and get the same ranking as that other kid who died in IB. In other words, do less work with the same results. I think I just found something more unfair than SAT.</p>
<p>I wonder how colleges see this…</p>
<p>And not everyone can stand 5-7 hours of studying every single freakin’ day either. Laziness have already killed most people at 4 hours.</p>
<p>The trend seems to be more that parents move families toward better schools, not worse/easier ones.</p>
<p>Fairness doesn’t much enter into selective college admission decisions; it’s more about institutional self-interest. They want to provide stimulating environments, so they try to attract bright, motivated, talented students who, collectively, bring diverse backgrounds and interests. So they admit the top students from various kinds of schools, not just IB schools.</p>
<p>Now I’ll make a guess: there’s not much difference in college graduation rates (colleges do try to admit kids with high chances of success) between the 5 and 15 AP kids, other factors being equal (though they seldom are), but we’d need a school’s Institutional Research department to confirm this.</p>
<p>Better schools = tougher to get better grades. I’m sure getting the same GPA as the 5 AP guy with 15 APs is harder, not to mention there are numerous people who actually crack if they take 15 and would’ve gotten higher GPA than the 5-AP guy if he only took 5. Oh well, I guess sometimes challenging yourself less is actually the right road to take if it’s all about GPA.</p>
<p>15 APs likely is harder, but it’s not all about GPA. This correct comparison is 4.0 UW with 5 APs or 15 APs; don’t expect colleges to “punish” the 5 APs because that’s all the school offers. S/he may be capable of the same performance with 15 APs.</p>
<p>Please give adcoms more credit than this; they have experience.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t wanna take my chances on this. Even people who never took honors and went with straight standard classes might be capable of performing 15 APs. You never know, so it’s better to take those who’ve proven themselves because, clearly, there are a lot of 15 APs out there who failed after trying; who cracked under pressure and suffered low GPA and other wise would’ve ended up with straight A’s if he only chose 5. What if he took 15 APs and got A’s in 10 AP’s and cracked on other five with C’s and D’s? Didn’t he perform better than the kid who only had 5 APs? Not necessarily, maybe. But whatever. Besides, ANYONE can end up in the crack-boat if they overload.</p>
<p>Not to mention, the 15 AP kid gets a lot more hours of homework per night than the 5 AP. He has to keep that up for a year, which only add up. For example, let’s say the 5 AP guy gets 2-3 hours per night, 15 AP gets 4-6 hours. You multiply that for a year worth of workload… Know what I mean? Some can keep it up for a year, others would crack after the first mid-term.</p>
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<p>As for iWorkHard’s candidacy, she/he took 5 APs out of 11-12 APs. She/he would not get the “most rigorous courseload” checked off.</p>
<p>And she/he got 3.62 Unweighted GPA with 1 AP under her belt at the moment since she/he crammed the other 4 in senior year. Emory won’t look at those grades for ED I unless they defer her and wait for her senior year grades.</p>
<p>And I wouldn’t be surprised if Emory gets crazy loads of people who took 5-10 APs before senior year and made it out with the same or even better unweighted GPA.</p>
<p>Her (I’m tired of saying he/she) SAT is also in the bottom 25% of last year’s class. Unless she gets that 2100.</p>
<p>It would definitely place her in the “reach” pile. She probably won’t get a closer look unless she writes eye-widening essays and provide stellar recommendations.</p>
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<p>Middle fifty is 3.71-3.98/4.0. Definitely a reach school and not a safety.</p>
<p>But, from that, it seems that your current SAT score actually fit into the middle 25%-75%. Barely. </p>
<p>And then there are the ECs which we know nothing about.</p>
<p>I have a decent amount of ECs and volunteering.</p>
<p>And I am hoping to get around a 2100. Whatever, I’m applying ED because I really want to go there, and if I don’t get in it’s all good.</p>
<p>I’m just really confused about the Emory/Oxford deal. Do I have to send copies to BOTH office of admissions? And the recommendations to both office of admissions? Or is just sending them to Emory enough and applying to both through common app?</p>
<p>Also, if I’m EDing to Emory, am I also EDing to Oxford? Very confused about this…</p>
<p>Just check off applying to both Emory and Oxford, and then list Early Decision on your main (not the extra) application. When Emory University receives your application the university will take care of the rest: send one to Emory and Oxford. Oxford doesn’t have Early Decision, so don’t worry about that.</p>
<p>They look at your Supplemental application first to see which ones you checked off to apply and then send your whole application to respective colleges of that university.</p>
<p>If you get accepted Early Decision at Emory College you will be required to withdraw your application to Oxford and attend Emory instead.</p>