Emory-Georgia Tech Dual Degree

<p>Hello all!</p>

<p>I was wondering about the Emery-GT dual degree program. I want to do Chemical Engineering at GT and Biological Sciences at Emory Is it worth it? And how do I go about it when applying to Emory? If any of you have done this, I'd love to hear your opinions!</p>

<p>I don’t think that will work because Tech offers biological sciences as a major. If you would like to start at Emory and then migrate to chemical engineering at Tech, that would work because Emory does not offer ChemE. However, to be in good standing migrating into that program, you’ll need to maybe start on accelerated track for chemistry. As in, come into Emory w/AP chem credit, take organic chemistry, and then enroll in things like analytical, inorganic, physics 151, and some math (the Tech requirements are sufficient) in subsequent years (mostly chem. majors migrate into ChemE and already have Pchem before going to Tech). It is possible to manage these with a biology major as plenty at Emory double major in NBB and chem and bio and chem (but again, they usually AP out of chem. I’m sure skipping out of bio 141 and placing into 240 and nailing a column requirement does not hurt either. You’ll get through Emory quicker that way).</p>

<p>Bernie, I don’t know if you read the question right–they’d major in ChemE at Tech and Biology at Emory (you have to complete a major at Emory as part of the program). I would say you’re far more likely to be able to get through ChemE at Tech and Chem at Emory.</p>

<p>The major challenges with the program is that you have a ton of prerequisites (so you want to bring in a lot of science/math AP credit and that you will pay out-of-state tuition at Tech (as I understand it), which Emory financial aid does not help with.</p>

<p>Also, it is a fairly poor program if you’re pre-med. Engineering grading is not conducive to going to medical school.</p>

<p>I know what they said, but I’m thinking it may not be allowed simply because Tech also offers a biology major (as in, I’m projecting the restrictions on cross-enrollment onto the dual degree process. They don’t allow cross-enrollment if the school you attend offers the course of interest). If it was NBB, I could see the justification. </p>

<p>In addition, the pre-med thing:
That’s tricky. Because if they complete their math and physics pre-reqs at Emory and take the necessary biology classes, and then primarily take engineering courses, that shouldn’t hurt the GPA as much. Natural sciences (exam/quiz based) courses typically grade lower than engineering courses (which have projects, lots of homework, etc to buffer exam scores). This is the general pattern at most U.S. schools. The GPAs of students at most engineering programs are usually deflated by the associated math and physics courses that go along with it (that tend to be very difficult to function as both a filter and foundation). We know that Emory’s math and physics courses will be less rigorous than Tech’s on average (because we don’t have engineering depts to whom they have to answer to if students lack prep) and the natural sciences (chemistry and several biology courses) will likely have more rigor (or a different type. Emory seems to have less multiple choice oriented teachers for example. Where Tech may give obscure or tough exams in physics and math. Some biology and chemistry courses do it here) than Tech. In fact, I’ve noticed that many Emory students doing 3-2 coming from Chem or CS/Math do extremely well in Tech’s engineering courses (know one friend who did ChemE and another MechE. Both actually made into the respective honor societies. They had well over 3.6), so it shouldn’t be a problem if this person were pre-med.</p>

<p>is this engineering dual program competitive? thank you!</p>

<p>Not really. Normally if you meet Tech’s requirements, they just let you in.</p>

<p>I eager to enjoy Emory’s social life while I am very interested in Engineering, so I plan to enroll Emory-GT dual degree program. But someone tell me it would be better to GT directly for engineering degree. Is it worth it? Please comment.</p>

<p>Do you get in-state tuition for Tech? If you do, I’d start off there. It’s not worth $$$$$ to come to Emory solely for a social life.</p>

<p>Unless money doesn’t matter much for your family.</p>

<p>I can’t get in-state tuition for Tech. Actually I’m not a US citizen, I’m a international student.</p>

<p>Still don’t think it’s worth it for the social life solely. Might as well go to tech and get the rigorous engineering education.</p>

<p>go for the engineering degree. Don’t risk the money and then come out of Emory less prepared than your Tech counterparts are for the engineering portion. Only consider it if you get Emory Scholars or great fin. aid. Don’t be dumb. In addition, Tech’s social life actually isn’t that bad. Their Greeklife is actually quite fun and creative and they have a similar seen to most state schools. They’re simply academically rigorous so time will be more evenly distributed between social and academic life. If you get an alma mater like this, you’ll be thanking it later (or in Tech’s case, immediately after graduation). Plus, there is a lot to be said when Companies recruit from a place because it knows that students were trained well and come out with great skills as opposed to being recruited because “people at X are smart when they walk through those gates” or “we’re loyal to this school because…”. </p>

<p>If your training was going to be in natural/life sciences then I would pause (and maybe even suggest UGA for undergrad. Still cheap, lots of options). Even then, outside of chemistry, Emory is still in “pass the pre-healths through” phase.</p>

<p>Thanks to @aluminum_boat and @bernie12. If I’m not sure whether I shall definitely go for the engineering degree , maybe I could fall in love with the business program in 2 years. Is it a good choice to enroll a major like economy in Emory at first?</p>

<p>They’re pretty different (economics and business as opposed to engineering).</p>

<p>Lots of people go into Wall Street as former engineers though… I guess it depends on what niche you want to be in.</p>

<p>Citadel recruits from Tech I guess. IDK how seriously. They don’t come to Emory.</p>

<p>I guess it all depends on what field you want to be in upon graduation.</p>

<p>I don’t think you’d “fall in love” with the b-school. Most people who come to Emory already are interested from the get go or choose it out of convenience or pragmatic reasons (as in, "I can only see myself in business, law, or medicine and pre-med didn’t work out so I’ll just go to the b-school while my GPA is still high enough). It’s either something you plan on really taking advantage of or becoming great at or something you fall into as kind of a random or last resort. At least that’s what I observe among Emory students.</p>

<p>During finals week, I said, “I am not smart enough to do math. I should’ve gone to the B-School”.</p>

<p>My roommate replied, “If I was smart enough to do something different, I wouldn’t be in the B-School”.</p>

<p>Lots of people are in it for the money. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing (I wouldn’t be doing math if it didn’t pay well…), but, unlike most other subjects, I don’t think many people actually like their business classes. Just a necessary evil to reach their goals. They’re definitely not “falling in love” with the B-School.</p>

<p>I still have a query: the Emery-GT dual degree program in engineering is designed for what kind of prospective students?</p>

<p>Huh? Should be obvious. Maybe for ones that are strong in math, but want to get a degree in a more liberal arts intensive field, but then also wants to get an engineering degree. Could also be for a student who is non-prehealth, has many AP credits, and wants to use them to immediately take advanced or intermediate courses and then more quickly complete a natural or physical sciences curriculum before going to apply the knowledge in engineering.</p>

<p>It’s for those rare folks serious about a liberal arts type curriculum or opportunity, but ultimately wants to do engineering.</p>

<p>Bernie12 is right on the mark (as usual). Would think great for someone interested in becoming, for example, a patent attorney.</p>

<p>Have mercy on the soul of the student considering pre-law (I’m sure a patent attorney would have to go this route) who does this track though. Their admissions are almost dumber than those at med schools (it’s numbers driven without additional hoops to jump through that could make you stand out). And we all know that a 3.5 (not competitive for top law schools and even some medium ones) in political science and one in chemistry and chemical engineering is equal and should be counted as so regardless of whether the latter gets and equal or higher LSAT scores. These two prof. schools are just so extremely welcoming to those who intentionally pursue a challenging undergraduate experience (pre-meds are essentially forced/strongly advised to cut corners with coursework when possible unless they are the perfect student, which is rare and then many imperfect students interested in law are essentially encouraged to stay in stereotypical majors or those less stringent grading than STEM or highly quantitative fields). What a mess! Engineering majors and those from more stringently grading science depts (not biological sciences usually) often get the short end of the stick despite often getting better training and problem solving skills.</p>

<p>Hi, Bernie12, your answer is just what I wanted. As an Asian international student I am expert at Math\Physics\Chemistry, but lack of American liberal arts education. So I plan to enroll liberal arts program at first, then transfer to Engineering majors. That’s why I choose the dual degree program in engineering. I think the DDPE will fulfill my desire. I estimate my test scores: SAT II (Math\Physics\Chemistry) 2350-2400, SAT I (CR 600-650, MATH 800), AP*(Math\Physics\Chemistry) 5\5\5. Is it reasonable and possible for my plan? Appreciated your further input!</p>