Emory (Goizueta) vs. Indiana (Kelley)

<p>I posted this in the Emory Forum but wanted to get a wide range of opinions, what do you guys think?</p>

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<p>Is Goizueta Business School and Emory as a whole better than Indiana Kelley that it's worth 10,000-20,000 more per year? My parents CAN pay but I'll rather not strain their finances.</p>

<p>My main concern is Emory's rankings for Finance which is dwarfed by Indiana Kelley though it's rank high in General Rankings and on Businessweek.</p>

<p>Emory has better weather and is a better fit but I'm not sure it's business school is "elite" enough to justify so much more money.</p>

<p>Even though I am going to IUB, I would go to Emory just because the school as a whole is alot better and its location is pretty good. Everyone wants to live in Atlanata not Bloomington.</p>

<p>Well, Emory’s school is highly thought of, but the school isn’t known outside of the southeast portion of the country, unless you work in academia (that is, if you are applying for graduate school at someplace like UCLA or Northwestern, they know Emory, otherwise nobody does).</p>

<p>It is in Atlanta, and if you like large cities, I guess that’s an advantage–and obviously, it is warmer. But Bloomington is a pretty nice place, and is much more of a college town–and thus caters to the students there more.</p>

<p>I also have to tell you, that Emory isn’t so well-known except for the Business school and for Health sciences (this last one mostly, since the center for Disease Control is in Atlanta and is across the street from Emory). And, as you know, Indiana ranks high in business the same as Emory. </p>

<p>When discussing rankings, rather than using the USNWR rankings, go look at a real fair ranking system here:</p>

<p>[Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities - 2008](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/EN2008.htm]Academic”>http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/EN2008.htm)</p>

<p>and you’ll see that Indiana University at Bloomington ranks as the 55th best North and Latin American college, while Emory is slightly lower as it ties for 59th through 77th.</p>

<p>As the San Francisco Examiner points out, the USNWR rankings are as bogus as can be–and each year they can be predicted based upon only one category: the size of the university’s endowment.</p>

<p>I have to tell you, too, that the Emory administration is known for being totally incompetent and screwing up applications for their school all the time (go on the Emory portion of CC and search past freshman and transfer application posts and you’ll see what I mean, since there are about 7 horror stories on there each year on how the administration screwed up somebody’s application and there was no recourse even though it was the university’s fault).</p>

<p>Now, Indiana has some problems also–like losing college and high school transcripts a lot. But, unlike Emory, they take responsibility when they do so–and they make allowances and correct the situation rather than just saying “tough luck”.</p>

<p>Now, the most important thing–is the business education better and worth the extra money?</p>

<p>Goizueta focuses more on strategic planning than Indiana, but Indiana is better at tying different disciplines together and showing how they form a cohesive whole. For that reason, Goizueta probably has a better major in General Management and Accounting and possibly Operations Research, while Indiana would probably be better in Finance, Entrepreneurship, Computer Science, Supply Chain, Legal Studies, with Marketing being equal at both schools.</p>

<p>Kelley consistently ranks in the top ten in accounting by US News and the Public Accounting Report. Emory doesn’t make the PAR’s top 25 or even honorable mention, so I don’t see how Emory could be better than IU in accounting.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cba.ufl.edu/fsoa/docs/PAR2007.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cba.ufl.edu/fsoa/docs/PAR2007.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
[Undergraduate</a> business specialties: Accounting - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/spec-accounting]Undergraduate”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/spec-accounting)</p>

<p>Let me clarify my remark here.</p>

<p>The only reason I say that Emory might be better than Indiana for accounting is because of the professors that teach the first three accounting courses at Indiana made those courses (BUS A100 and A201 and A202) much tougher (grading-wise) than they needed or should have been.</p>

<p>Specifically, half of all students who took BUS A100 either dropped it or had to retake it. The average GPA of those taking the A201 course is about a 2.7 GPA, and about 35% of those taking the A202 course from Susan Tiller (who is the main person who teaches it) end up getting a C- or lower.</p>

<p>Once you get past these courses, the courses taught, and the grading curve gets much more fair.</p>

<p>Can Emory provide a better accounting education than Indiana? My comments should have indicated that my concern at Indiana was with being able to get through the courses, not with the specific instruction provided. Maybe tough courses mean those who get through are much more qualified–but it seems unfair to me that more than 40% or so are unable to even pass the major preliminary courses on the first try. </p>

<p>P.S. The school has changed who teaches the A100 course–but they did so by promoting the old professor to be the department chairman.</p>

<p>From experience, A100 was one of the hardest classes I took. It was only 8 weeks, but they bombard you with lots of information and work. The material is not easy to understand. It takes lots of practice and studying. Although this is a one credit course, I worked my ass harder than the 3 credit courses.</p>

<p>I have to experience A201 and A202. I expect to get my ass kicked lawl.</p>