hi,
could really use your help in this one. I got accepted into both emory and unc and i’m interested into a BBA, preferably specialized on finance. I am an international and UNC turns out to be 10k cheaper than emory. Is emory’s bschool worth the extra money? then, which school is more prestigious and better for career placement in finance? I’ve heard that UNC is a great college experience but i dont know what’s the situation at emory. Thanks in advance
that’s good to hear man. My only concern with unc however is that it is comprised mainly by NC residents (i read they are somewhere around 80% of the student population) so i dont know how i would feel as an international. Long story short, i feel as UNC is more homogeneous as regerds its student population and i am not sure how much i like that. Plus, regarding recruitment, that’s what i found for emory: http://goizueta.emory.edu/degree/undergraduate/career_management/placement_statistics/index.html
and for unc i found only that:
http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/~/media/Files/documents/unc-kenan-flagler-undergraduate-business-infographic.pdf
(last page)
Last thing, there is no mention of Kenan-Flagler here:
http://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/2014/07/02/best-job-placement-for-biz-undergrads/
which of course may sound trivial and stupid of me judging the reputation of a business school by one website, but then again, it quite concerns me.
Thanks again
@miketheman The two schools are very close peers. There would be no difference in career prospects. In fact, starting salaries are a bit higher at Emory.
Post #1 unfortunately has a combination of unsubstantiated claims and a trivial reference to Goldman Sachs, Paul Parker. Who graduated 30 years ago and also went to Harvard Business School. It is meaningless now.
Emory starting salaries are about $60k and UNC $58k.
Look it up.
You and the other guy are the ultimate school spammers on all the business school threads.
UNC is a good school but its no better than 20 other schools. In the more accurate rankings they are tied basically.
Both Bschools are equivalent.
The difference is in atmosphere - UNC is bigger on Athletics (basketball especially) and is larger, it’s very diverse socio-economically but not geographically; Emory is smaller, private, more geographically diverse but less socio-economically diverse.
Another issue is that the current legislature in NC has taken an adversarial outlook upon the UNC system, which affects funding. It may blow over, especially if elections change the legislature’s composition, but it’s still a concern.
i see, i looked up the b-school rankings again, they turned out to be pretty similar and mostly higher for UNC. One last thing though: how would Wake Forest, Davidson, and Colgate compare to Emory and UNC. I got accepted but never seriously thought about them up until I saw the Grateful Grad (ROI) index by Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/schifrin/2015/07/29/top-50-roi-colleges-2015-grateful-grads-index/#6e7989ea15cc
(i have applied for econ at Davidson and Coglate)
Davidson and Colgate would be undergraduate-focused so the teaching quality/experience would be better. The general resources are good. Colgate would be completely different in culture and climate than Emory. All three are elite privates so you’d be finding the same quality of peers, with probably better teaching quality at Colgate or Davidson.
UNC is different from them because it’s a large public university that’s research-focused.
so to sum it up, davidson and colgate are very similar both in nature and quality (being LAC) and so are wfu, emory and unc (being research universities), all have very similar academics and career prospect, so the only major decision i have to make is on how i would like the student body and the overall environment, right?
Not exactly, because WFU and Emory are private vs. UNC CH is public.
It means UNC CH is larger, will have more research but more directed toward graduate students, larger classes, fewer amenities (that private tuition pays for). It will have more diversity and Chapel Hill is an awesome college town (plus there’s no denying their sports are better than the other ones).
WFU will be rather conservative and Emory will be rather liberal. Living and learning conditions are more comfortable, that’s what your tuition pays for in part.
Undergraduate-focused colleges have smaller, interactive classes, professors who focus on undegraduates and take the time to create mentoring relationships with them. Colgat and Davidson are into sports participation (although Colgate is D1 and Davidson has pretty good teams, a predominant percentage of students are involved in sports at any level.)
Have you had a chance to visit?
THere’s really no wrong choice.
unfortunately i never had the chance to visit but from your info i got quite a good insight i think on the student population. I think i’ll go with UNC. My high school is full of rich and snobby kids so i think i want to get a bit out of that bubble going to college, and from what i understood UNC can provide me that given that in-state students pay much less tuition. I don’t like small environments and to see the same people over and over again; i tend to have a “me against the world” mentality, so the large student population of UNC doesn’t bother me at all, probably the opposite. So, if indeed UNC Kenan-Flagler is well represented in finance careers and Wall Street, i think it will turn out to be my final choice. From what i got there is no big difference in academics between the schools. My only concern know would be teaching quality at UNC, as you mentioned:
“It means UNC CH is larger, will have more research but more directed toward graduate students, larger classes”
Are you in at the honors college ? I don’t recall your saying so but it’d alleviate the impersonal large lectures.
I know you’re direct admit at Kennan Flagler, which is terrific. But first you’ll have to meet requirements outside of KC, so you need to know about those and which classes you could take to alleviate the large courses. Often, teaching quality is hit-or-miss (professors will be primarily evaluated on research, then service, then only teaching) and teaching assistants will lead your section, sometimes assign your grade for that (you can try and see if a well-rated professor teaches a section - you’d typically have 2 hours of lecture and 1 hour of discussion section per week).
You’ll need to have credits for one semester of English, Calculus, Intro to Econ, Micro Econ, Stats, and Accounting + University gen eds.
Honors College would guarantee some of these classes are small.
http://honorscarolina.unc.edu/
no, i applied for econ at unc and put business as a second choice major (i dindnt know how good Kenan Flagler was when i applied). At Emory i applied for business but the acceptance letter welcomed me on the Arts and Sciences Dept, so I am guessing i will have to apply to both schools again, but i don’t think (and hope) that will be an issue
Oh, if you’re not direct admit at KC, then it’s an issue. It’s VERY competitive. 50% applicants are turned down.
A Emory, application is competitive too. You have to take Calc 1, a Writing course, Economics, Statistics, Intro to Business + most gen eds ie., freshman seminar, one lab science, one Humanities, one History/Cultures, one Health (Or produce AP scores).
At UNC, the requirements are very similar to Emory’s (one semester of English, Calculus, Intro to Econ, Micro Econ, Stats, and Accounting) + University gen eds, ie., foreign language through level 3 (or AP foreign language score of 4), two sciences, 1 history, 1 social science, 1 Humanities or Fine Arts, 1 communication.
At Colgate or Davidson, when you’re in for the college, you’re in for any major.
i am graduating from a full-time (2 year) IB diploma program and from what i understood i can take credit from my final exams. According to my predictions and some mock exams i am very sure i can finish my ib diploma with the following: Math HL 6/7 (option calculus), Econ HL 7/7, Physics HL 6/7, Business SL 7/7 and Eng A SL 6/7, so i am guessing i can get quite some credit off of those
You would only get credit for your HL’s - so,
at UnC
Econ 101 (one of the two Econs at UNC), and 2 maths (but not stats) + 2 science courses for Physics HL - that’s it.
http://admissions.unc.edu/credit/credit/test-and-placement-credit/
Same deal at Emory except that since they only require one Econ, you’re done with that.
However if your school can register you (they can, until Ap 8, I think) for corresponding AP(English Language) you could use the credits.
^the above example is very biased: it’s one of the most popular classes at Yale and NOT a typical intro class! And anyway, you’d need to compare classes in subjects you’ll actually take, at all 5 universities you’re considering. Since you’ll get exemptions for Economics and math, but not for statistics, I suggest looking at the number of students in the required Statistics class, which you’d likely take your first semester, and in your foreign language class, at each of the universities.
You can compare the enrollment by looking at the schedule of classes online for Fall 2016.
so both at emory (which i did apply for business but have no indication of being admitted to Goizueta) and unc i have a 50% chance of getting in the b-schools which will depend on my performance on the first(unc) and second (emory) years (?)
I’d recommend UNC. Cheaper, better ranked, probably more fun.
Well, lots of them are. I don’t think so, I know so 
- freshman seminars, foreign language, Phys 100a or Phys 200a… CS classes are very large everywhere due to increasing demand, and Yale’s added 7 new faculty members to respond to demand. Still, yes, at Yale like everywhere, there are large lecture classes - the only place where an undergrad will only have small classes is at LACs. If one doesn’t want them at all, then LACs are the best solution.
But it’d be disingenuous to pretend the large classes are as numerous and as large everywhere; also, public universities don’t have the means to respond to demand in the ways a very wealthy private university can (and note it took a while for Yale to create those 7 faculty positions. But adding 7 faculty members would simply be impossible in today’s climate at UNC.)
All of this is moot for OP, who doesn’t want to major in Cs nor go to Yale.
NC is a wealthy state, but the current legislature is very adversarial toward the UNC system ( and just passed an eye-rolling pro-discrimination law). It’s just strange to have UNC-Ch in the middle of this, but it is being used to prove an off-the-wall weird ideological point. Don’t you think Duke and Davidson are rejoicing right now because of the moves made in the past 18 months? And don’t say it’s not possible - witness UWisconsin.
Yes the research triangle is fantastic and the economy’s booming: OP will be able to have internships… However I doubt OP will have trouble getting internships from elsewhere. That’s not the issue.
The issue is large vs. Medium vs. small, public vs. private, requirements and competitive entrance to his major of choice, etc.
UNC is a great university and OP is leaning toward it anyway.
@MiketheMan: yes, admission to business is competitive at both UNC and Emory. Odds are about 50% at UNC, I don’t know for Emory but I’m sure that if you email Goizueta they’ll let you know. On the other hand, considering your IB choices, odds are excellent that you’ll get A’s in Statistics and the second economics course, and if your language SL’s (A and B) don’t get you out of the English and Foreign Language requirements, you’d likely find the 1st-year classes in these two subjects very easy.
It’s just really too bad you didn’t apply to Honors Carolina - perhaps contact them, indicate yourpredicted total score as well as the detail, ask what you should do to get into Honors? Even if you only get in for Spring it’d help with class sizes and personal attention.