Emory V Oxford Merit

@bernie12 do you know what year Chemistry Dennis Liotta teaches?

@AimingTop50 : He only teaches freshman ochem (on main campus) and then an upper division seminar for chemistry majors Also, if you want to learn, he is a nice guy and sounds great when lecturing (even for freshman ochem, I STRONGLY recommend Soria over him. You may not make an A, but students who started from his class have a much bigger track record of success in upper division courses and just at Emory and their post-grad lives in general. This partly comes from the fact that he teaches very rigorously and also from the fact that he has time and invests time in mentoring. Liotta does not have time for that. He barely has time for his own class. Soria will teach a chunk of the lectures anyway), but he pitches his course at too low a level. He is fine for an upper division seminar where you have already achieved a foundation in perhaps multiple areas of chemistry, but if you are trying to gain a solid foundation, you want to take a lecturer like Weinschenk, Soria, McGill, someone like that.

As a hint, usually famous faculty or super highly productive STEM faculty will not make optimal teachers. They often tend to be lazy in one way or another. This is the reality of teaching at a research 1 university.

I want to make sure I take a class with him. He’s a legend.

@AimingTop50: Upper division medicinal chemistry is the course you want to place into then (only requires ochem as pre-req). Remember that you ideally want to learn not merely be in their presence. If you desperately want to be in their presence, do well in a challenging ochem section and get recommended to his research lab in some capacity by that instructor. Do not prioritize being starstruck over learning.

Yeah ofc @bernie12
It would just be really cool to research or take a small class with the guy who made huge strides for HIV

It was actually stated in an Oxford Freshman Seminar Course. Apparently they want to expand the campus size to around 2000 students compared to the 1000 they have now. They want to renovate all the all non-residential buildings (pierce and the language hall have already been renovated). They recently built the enormous Oxford Science Building in 2015, introduced a 10 million dollar library in 2013, and have just opened a new dining hall this year. People in SGA at both Oxford and main campus have heard these rumors from faculty members. The plan is to make Oxford an intense liberal arts-esque type of institution where students go to strictly focus on their studies. By making it the honors college of Emory and dumping more money into the campus, students will have easier opportunities to complete research in their designated field of study. Since the campus is much smaller, students will have easier access to assistance from faculty members and still maintain a personal connection with their professors. It looks like Emory has a long term goal for Oxford, since they first starting investing a lot of money into the campus in 2013 and are still going. This may take a while if they are legitimately trying to double the size of the student body due to construction and the space needed for new residence halls.

@undergrad20 I’ve heard that the Atlanta campus plans to admit more students as well.

Is Oxford planning to acquire more land to build the new residence halls? To double the size of the student body, they’d need to double the current capacity of the residence halls, no?

Or does Oxford own undeveloped land nearby that it plans to build on?

How does increasing the student body size at both the Atlanta and Oxford campuses fit into a long term strategic vision? Is there a plan to add an engineering school?

Isn’t Emory University already the right size for a R1 research university (at least in its undergraduate population)?

Has the plan to turn Oxford College into the Honors College of Emory been confirmed by the University? or is this just a rumor?

Merit better at Emory and Oxford than Wake.

@muzzahlady I think that may not be the case for me. It seems that the majority of merit money given at Wake is full rides. So only 3% of ppl get merit at Wake. My URM status will also have a greater effect at Wake.

@AimingTop50 It is very hard to predict where your merit award will be highest. I personally was offered absolutely nothing at Wake Forest but will be attending Oxford with full tuition (you can look at past threads for my stats if you’re curious). I also was not even invited to UMiami’s scholarship weekend, despite being a legacy with a near-perfect SAT. I’m not a URM, so maybe my results aren’t as applicable, but they definitely were not what I expected.

I think the only reason not to apply to Oxford is if you know you wouldn’t attend Oxford, even with a scholarship. It is definitely very different and it definitely isn’t for everyone. I wouldn’t avoid applying just to increase your chances at Emory Scholars, though. I think that if you’re going to be invited to Emory Scholars, you will be, and it specifically says in the FAQ that you can be selected as an Emory Scholar and also be admitted to Oxford. The chance of getting invited to either Scholars program is already incredibly small anyway. I don’t know the number for Emory College, but <.5% of Oxford applicants got invited this year. You could argue that it’s less competitive at Oxford because the overall pool is a bit less competitive, but with so few selected, I wouldn’t count on a gigantic difference. Everyone at the weekend was extremely accomplished. I would imagine that which program you are invited to depends more on fit than anything if you applied to both, especially since Oxford so heavily emphasizes leadership. Even if that’s not true and they do pick the absolute strongest overall candidates for Emory Scholars, not applying to Oxford doesn’t improve your chances of making that cut.

Just keep in mind, like others were saying, that everyone graduates with an Emory degree and that Oxford Scholars continue into the Emory Scholars program after transitioning to the Atlanta Campus.

Also a sidenote: Emory College voted to transition to only offering 12 credits for APs, same as Oxford, starting with the class of 2022. The 24 vs 12 credit disparity is no longer an issue.

Very helpful @velmah I’m single legacy at UM too! And all my aunts and uncles from that side went to UM! I may end up not applying EA there if I go withe restrictive EA, but if not, I will also be looking forward to that weekend.

Great job landing at oxford for free!