<p>Anyone know any specific differences between the 191, 192, and 294 Engineering Calculus Sequence vs. the 221-222, 223-224 non-engineering calc sequence?</p>
<p>Is the engineering a little less in-depth in fewer courses?</p>
<p>Is one more difficult or more respected?</p>
<p>Is neither harder or better, just one is application driven and the other theory?</p>
<p>I am in CAS for physics and maybe math. I want to get a firm mathematical background, and was thinking about maybe transferring to AEP in COE. Just trying to figure out what would be the best for me.</p>
<p>In principle the engineering mathematics are supposed to be more application orientated but it doesn't always work out that way, particularly with MATH 294. I haven't taken the CAS math sequence so I can't compare the two but I have friend that in physics in CAS that decided to take the engineering sequence. He lasted one course and switched back the CAS sequence. He said the curve was harsher in the engineering sequence. You're also more likely to see a few computational assignments in the engineering sequence.</p>
<p>As for AEP it's a very hard major to be allowed affiliation with as you need a B- in all required math and physic courses. AEP is not for the light of heart as their physics courses are much harder than the rest. If you're interested I'd try taking the honors physic sequence and if you can hack it then consider AEP.</p>
<p>I want to cry (sorta). This AEP thing scares the (insert anything) out of me! The math curves do too. I got a Physics 800 and Math IIC 800, but I'm guessing most other kids do too. ~sigh~</p>
<p>I think "not for the faint of heart" is possibly the best description of AEP that I've heard so far. You can't go into that major half-assed. Seriously, it will wreck your **** if you aren't hardcore into it and don't absolutely love it. So what i'm saying is that it isnt something to transfer into if you just think that you might possibly want to do something in that field.</p>
<p>With respect to the original question, i dont know much about the non-engineering math, but i've taken 191 and 192. I don't see how the same material could be taught any differently....it was just how you'd expect math to be. The professor teaches. You do homework. You take three or four tests and get a grade. It's just math, plain and simple. 293, while a hard class, doesnt seem to have any particular orientation that makes it engineering-specific. Now maybe 294 has some "applications" in it, but i've talked to people who have taken it and have looked at the book myself, and it too seems pretty straightforward. So i don't see why a non-engineer couldn't take these classes and do just fine. And engineering math is certainly very credible, since engineering is more math-intensive than any field expect pure math or physics. All in all, if you want a good solid foundation in math, the engineering sequence will give you that. However, what i'm not qualified to say is whether the other math sequence won't give you the same quality base of knowledge in math. For all I know, it might be just as good.</p>
<p>i feel same as jerew xept im in the aep major already, i really hope i can handle it and i dont have ne where NEAR perfect sat scores, i never even learned integration in high shool!!! we stopped at differentiation here in ontairo...right now im going thru all that stuff, and maybe end of next week ill start trying to learn my integrals from an old old textbook i have all on my own, while still working 30 hrs + a week...so jerew count urselfs lucky, lol im also recruited for squash there and they say its 2hrs a nite 5 days a week practice/training alone!!!</p>
<p>now u all got be worried like crazy again, ahhh</p>
<p>they originally told me eng calc and calc for math and phys majors was the same, ye that was true for other years..but now eng calc starts right after integrals..where as the non eng calc is basically what i have done up to know, plus the integrals at the end...so maybe ill hafta take that course to catch up to u americans? hope not that would really suck...id hafta take the classes diff. semesters as every1 else, so hwk help and other ppl help/etc will be hard to find...ill be behind one semester in everything and all that, if i was going to ontario university id be fine, and probably ahead by almost a semester, arghh i hope its all alright</p>
<p>I think if you have the drive to work on that stuff in the summer, you should catch up. Heh, I feel like you do when talking to another kids from Minnesota who pretty much is starting with a Math minor. I just made through a pretty lousy section of AP Calc where 90% of my class failed the AP exam. I feel inadequate as well. Maybe we'll both be just fine! Thanks for the info guys. Anything you have is always appreciated.</p>
<p>ye, well i dont think i have that drive, i just wanna enjoy my last summer before college....and spend time outside we only get a few months of summer u know. not fair i did all i could do to prepare IN school like i got 96% in calculus, 97% in data management (probability kinda math and stuff) and 92% in the hardest course in our high schools , geometry and discrete mathematics, on top of writing sat's and stuff and im still behind, lol, frustrating.....wish i knew u did integrals earlier and i woulda maybe done em during the school year on my own or sumtin i dunno...i worked hard all year saying to my self, just few more months then ill have the summer to relax and enjoy...but now i dont, i am relaxing and enjoyin but in the back of my mind i know im behind and not doing the work i should be</p>