<p>See, Im_blue, that's what I thought was going to happen. So basically, your original top 4 was simply defined to be the top 4 at getting its graduates into faculty positions. So naturally if you define your top 4 that way, then it will obviously turn out that they will be the top 4 to get their graduates to be into faculty positions. It's nothing more than a tautology.</p>
<p>In any case, that leaves the open question that UIUC is, according to both the NRC and USNews, a top 4 program, so why is it that they seem to be notably unsuccessful in getting their grads into top faculty positions.</p>