<p>“It is ranked 15th for Engineering & IT by THES-QS World University Rankings 2008.”
Plus #10 for PhD candidates under the nsf.gov link</p>
<h1>23 world by USNWR</h1>
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<p>Well I have never heard of City College or Manhattan being elite in engineering, so you might expect they wouldn’t be super high on that list. Cooper Union is good but very small so it only takes one or two people to have a lower paying job to bring the average down, and the Fu Foundation is a great program, but not on part with some of the other ones on that list, so it isn’t surprising that they would be a little lower on the list.</p>
<p>Average salary is very regional, but even an inferior (from a recruiting standpoint) school in Manhattan won’t reach the levels of a powerhouse Midwestern school. When you have two comparable programs from different regions, that is where the regional variation comes in.</p>
<p>Are you guys serious? You really care that much about ranking? If a school is ranked at all, then that should be enough for you. If you can handle completing an engineering degree then how could an employer complain, especially if you have research experience, a co-op or internship. And you wonder why there’s posts complaining about not finding a gf in engineering… worry about something else- if you got accepted to UIUC, Mich, Caltech, Cooper Union… etc whatever~~ youll do fine at any, unless you’re lacking in social skills and bomb the interview. I’mgoing to be a girl in engineering and I really hope the guys I meet aren’t as “class conscious” as you.</p>
<p>Don’t worry mictedgin, not all of us are clueless nerds… most of us are very tactful nerds. Keep in mind many people on this forum are not even in college yet and are just here for information and have to have all their misconceptions cleared up as soon as they get here.</p>
<p>mectedgin, the party is next door.</p>
<p>Seriously though, CC people are not regular college kids. If you roam around the forums, most the people are high achievers ( or try to). I learned much from here and I think one needs to be positive about the feedback received. If you see something that might contradict your experiences, post them here.</p>
<p>“if you got accepted to UIUC, Mich, Caltech, Cooper Union… etc whatever~~ youll do fine at any, unless you’re lacking in social skills and bomb the interview.”</p>
<p>What if you’re going to a school like University at Buffalo? Most people I’ve talked to said that you can get into top grad programs from a less notable engineering school, such as UB, as long as you work hard and are active in the program. I’m guessing this means being in clubs, doing undergraduate research, and hopefully keeping at least a 3.5. Is this true, or are you still at a disadvantage when applying for graduate school at these ‘top tier’ universities?</p>
<p>Add Rose Hulman to Tier 1</p>
<p>LLaKHigH. You most certainly can get into a top graduate program coming from a less known program. I had a professor who got his B.S. from the University of Toledo, for instance, and then did Applied Math at Cornell and Princeton for graduate school. Some concept goes for engineering. I work with other graduate students here who came from all sorts of random schools, including several from MIT and Berkeley and the likes and others from Alabama-Huntsville. As long as you work hard and prove that you can succeed, you can get into a top school.</p>
<p>Plus, from everything I have heard, Buffalo has a perfectly respectable program.</p>
<p>Some of you guys are really reaching with these rankings.</p>
<p>can someone tell me which tier rice would be in?</p>
<p>Why does it matter?</p>
<p>LLaKHighH: If you graduate with a degree in engineering from UB with a 3.5 GPA, you will (in the general case, as long as your people skills are also reasonable) receive excellent opportunites, whether you want to enter the job market, engineering grad school, or many other professional programs. No doubt. Don’t worry.</p>
<p>My conclusions on this matter (Prestige, Rankings, Brand Name Schools) is that…</p>
<p>1.People think differently on this matter (and there are objective arguments for both sides). Also people’s opinions are largely influenced on their alma matter </p>
<p>2.The bulk percentage of engineers in industry are not from a brand name school, I point this out to encourage people that aren’t from ‘Dartmouth’ to not fret over it</p>
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<li>On CC your seeing a distorted balance of this matter weighted towards elitist schools</li>
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<p>I believe these conclusions above to be true and objective, but I’d like to share my personal ‘opinion’ also, and this might change 180 in a year or two…</p>
<p>I think brand names matter…But the reason I say I might change my mind and am stating this strictly as an opinion, is that before I wanted bad to go to a fancy school on the east coast for college but I listened to my family telling me I was being irrational and went to ISU…but now, and I emphasize this, the thought of having gone to an expensive private for 5yrs of undergrad seems like the most ridiculous and dumbest idea…And I’m 100% happy here and now. But also now, and this is funny, going to a ‘top tier’ grad school is my aspiration without a doubt but perhaps that will change too u know? I wouldn’t be surprised because I’ll admit for me there’s a psychological component, like why people gotta have on nike’s…just the name of ‘stanford’ or ‘cornell’ is like music to my ears and it’s part of the reason I strive to work so hard towards excellence right now with the idea of going a school like that.</p>
<p>Cyclone10, you are spot on.</p>
<p>One thing you can do is go to one of the fancy schools for grad school (on your company’s dime) once you get your degree and start working. I’ll be applying to Stanford University for grad school in a year or two, and then I too can have a fancy university on my resume.</p>
<p>bigtrees, yea, either that or I’ve also been hearing that once you get in for M.S. you usually get some funding and /or tution waiver after the first semester too. People don’t really mention the costs associated with those schools for grad school, so I’m not sure though?</p>
<p>'trees, cyclone: just be aware, if you plan to go to work and attend grad school on your company’s dime, it is often your company that will decide where you attend. Often it will be a local university, or one of the programs involving a lot of distance learning (Ga Tech has one that my company uses).</p>