Engineering vs. Physics: Which to transfer into?

<p>Are you currently attending RPI? They have an engineering physics undergraduate degree (<a href="http://www.eng.rpi.edu/soe/academics_ug_engphysics.cfm)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.eng.rpi.edu/soe/academics_ug_engphysics.cfm)&lt;/a>, which is what sax mentioned. </p>

<p>I am currently an undergrad at another school and pursuing an engineering physics major. I have heard it described as basically an applied physics major with bit of engineering, but so far I have done the same courses as a normal Physics major and in the next year or so I will be taking my concentration courses that are in a field of engineering (ME, EE, OE, BE, etc). The program probably works differently at each university, but if you have an interest in engineering and physics i think it's a nice program. </p>

<p>It's a program that is catching on, but it isn't nearly as widespread as normal engineering or physics programs, so the school selection is a bit sparse, and accredited programs are even harder to find since it takes a good number of years for to get a program accredited by ABET. Accredited or not, I would recommend the program if you have an interest in both fields and can take it at a school that has engineering accreditation.</p>

<p>For other inquiries you can maybe look at this website (I believe I got it somewhere off of these boards): The</a> Sloan Career Cornerstone Center It has a lot of Engineering and Physics related help.</p>

<p>I chose physics over engineering because I wanted the pure science and a broader physics education.</p>

<p>Hi JohnWillkins, not currently a student there, but very interested. A friend of mine is a Physics major there, and is one of the reasons I began considering it. For some reason Engineering Physics just doesn't sound like my shtick, though.</p>

<p>Shackleford, one of the reasons Physics looks appealing is because of the potential to get a broader education through the higher number of electives. I think I might have a better time of this at Cornell, which has strong departments outside of the technical realm. However, I've read that Arts & Sciences is difficult to get into, although I wonder if they are looking for Physics majors. Regardless, I would likely have better odds applying to the College of Engineering. Does anyone have experience with Operations</a> Research and Engineering as a major?</p>

<p>Physics is a good bet if (a) you like all of the courses they will make you take (more breadth) and (b) if you have interests which can't be satisfied by the more narrow study of an engineering discipline. For example, physics interested me much more than aero, mech., or elec. engineering, but CS interests me much more than math (overlap exists, but approaches are different).</p>

<p>Quicksilver, I need to choose a good minor to go with my physics major. I do not want to double major. While I'm not all about money, I would like to have a marketable degree to employers. The University of Houston offers a Mechanical Engineering minor. I could also get a mathematics minor or maybe some kind of business minor. I'm not sure if you responded in the recent thread I posted about this. Thanks for the input.</p>

<p>I would recommend mech. eng. over mathematics, hands down, as far as employability is concerned. Furthermore, you'll probably end up learning most of what a math major could offer you from your physics curriculum, anyway... if you're really not into mech. eng. though, business could be alright. I would suggest management... although finance could put you in a good position, too. CS might not be a bad idea, if being a software developer doesn't sound too bad. So, I would say...</p>

<p>mech. eng.
management/finance
economics/CS</p>

<p>That's what I might do, anyway.</p>

<p>I went through the physics vs. engineering thing for a while... and ended up going with engineering. From my research, it seemed to me that physics, being a basic science degree, is for people who either want a broad background for a different career than physics, or for going the PhD physics route. So, physics + MBA, physics + med school, physics + engineering, etc. are all viable options.
However, what helped me make the decision for engineering over physics was thinking about 3 things... what kind of work do I want to do, what kind of employability do I want, and how much do I want to get paid.
Fundamentally, I love physics. I like it more than engineering "design" work or coding, which is probably a lot of what I will be doing in my undergrad as an EE. However, after a while, physics gets pointless for me... I love the problem-solving aspect, but stuff like string theory is just too far-fetched for me to be able to handle REAL physics.
Now, I don't absolutely hate engineering work or anything, but I would like to get in the more "theoretical" aspects of engineering in my career as fast as possible. Therefore, I am considering going to grad school (in engineering) to expose myself to newer research in... nanotech, quantum, and other areas with higher overlap with physics.
So I think its entirely possible to be able to get to a position in engineering where you're dealing with theory/research (R&D) more than design work. In this way one can get the best of both worlds. I think similar positions are harder to get with a physics degree simply because you don't have the practical/technical knowledge, and are more geared towards acamdemia than industry. With engineering, its also easier to get a better paying job faster... even before or without going to grad school.
And in the end, if you still don't like engineering, one can go on to grad school in something different. Engineering + MBA is apparently a route to making big money fast, and engineering majors even go on to med school. But this is only my first year in college, so lets see how things turn out.</p>

<p>Quick, the ME minor would be interesting, but I guess I'm considering some kind of business minor to give me some "easy" courses. lol.</p>

<p>Some useful statistics about Physics graduates from the American Institute of Physics:</p>

<p>Where</a> Physics Bachelors Work</p>

<p>Predominant</a> Work Activities</p>

<p>Physics</a> Bachelors One Year Later--Note that out of 4000 students receiving physics degrees in 2004, 320 went on to engineering grad school.</p>

<p>Typical</a> Starting Salaries</p>

<p>More statistics available at Education</a> and Employment Data - American Institute of Physics</p>

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In summation: what are the benefits of going into a Physics major rather than Engineering, and vice versa? Which Engineering field, if any, sounds more suitable to me if I would highly prefer a desk job?</p>

<p>As for what drives me: I value the knowledge that comes with taking high level math and science courses. I have found some unexpected interest in social sciences such as sociology and macroeconomics. More personally, I come from a low income family, and am somewhat driven to succeed monetarily so I can improve our quality of life. At the same time, I do not really want to work 100 hours a week like an investment banker. Not to say I am not willing to work hard -- but I do need time to spend with my loved ones. Sacrificing family, friends and significant others for work does not make sense to me.

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<p>Now to actually answer your question!</p>

<p>If you want a desk job, look into CS. You'll never leave the office building except maybe for meetings, your desk is your lab, and so far there always seems to be more demand for software engineers. At my school, software people typically receive offers for about $5-10,000 more than other engineers. </p>

<p>The advantages of physics over engineering:</p>

<p>At their best, physics courses will give you a deep exposure to the reality of the world around you. Engineering courses will use some of the same equations and touch on many similar topics, but will not take the time to dwell on insights into physics. As a consequence physics courses will better train you to understand and critically evaluate new problems. </p>

<p>Physics also does a very good job of teaching students about the assumptions that underly a lot of the methods used in engineering. This can be important in more "cutting edge" (e.g., nanotech) fields because it turns out that a lot of the cutting edge stuff occurs in regimes where existing engineering methods are not applicable because certain assumptions no longer hold.</p>

<p>Also, physics major programs typically have fewer required courses so you will have more space for electives of your choice.</p>

<p>The advantages of engineering over physics:</p>

<p>Engineering courses, specifically the engineering design/capstone courses, will give you applicable, employable "real-world" skills and knowledge. If you put in the effort to do well on your projects and learn the hands-on skills involved in the process of making them, you will have a comparatively easy time getting an engineering job. As far I know, engineering jobs pay fairly well, have pretty good benefits, and entail generally reasonable (not necessarily always 40 hours a week, but reasonable) work hours. </p>

<p>Depending on your personality, you may find engineering work to be more satisfying since you are actually making something. There are potentially a lot of opportunities to do creative and elegant work in engineering. Some of my friends have showed me some pretty cool stuff they got to make in class.</p>

<p>A word about skills</p>

<p>There are basically two different kinds of technical courses: Lecture/theory and lab/design. </p>

<p>Lecture/theory courses primarily revolve around reading textbooks, going to class, and doing problem sets. From these classes you will learn mathematical methods and get a general idea of what kinds of things engineers can do.</p>

<p>Lab/design courses revolve around performing experiments or designing and making projects. Physics labs will involve performing lab experiments with the idea being that students will gain confidence in the reality of physics while learning skills useful for doing scientific research (which may involve designing specialized equipment) in the future. Some of these skills will be very useful for finding a job, while others will be totally useless. </p>

<p>In contrast, engineering design courses will involve designing and making things with the idea being that students will learn how their lecture/theory courses actually work out in real life. Most of the skills learned in these courses will be useful for getting a job after college.</p>

<p>About me</p>

<p>I'm currently an upper division undergraduate with a mixed background in physics and a mishmash of engineering fields. I have taken upper division courses in the Math, Physics, EE, ME, and NukeE departments. (Don't do this--I spread myself too thin so I don't have any depth in my program.)</p>

<p>Everything I mention about the job market is based on anecdotal/non-scientific study. Please do not make decisions based on my projections of the job market.</p>