<p>OK there so I’ve got a million people disagreeing with me. I’m really not an expert in these fields. I’ve only been researching them in the past month or so. If you’d like an expert opinion, read The Bell Curve and read essays by Charles Murray like these two: [For</a> Most People, College Is a Waste of Time - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121858688764535107.html?mod=googlenews_wsj]For”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121858688764535107.html?mod=googlenews_wsj) and [AEI</a> - Short Publications - The Age of Educational Romanticism](<a href=“http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.27962/pub_detail.asp]AEI”>http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.27962/pub_detail.asp)</p>
<p>But i’ll brielfy respond to some.</p>
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<p>Fine, I see what you’re saying and I usually did a similair process. But your entire scheme for studying and subseuqent conclusion is based off yourself. Only a highly intelligent person can understand the theory. It’s that simple. Look at Euler angles and tell me even someone who’s simply good at physics can master that topic. I could barely and I got an A+ in the course. And I was also satisfied with my grades (smiley face).</p>
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<p>Ironically, I’m in a very similiar situation. I wasn’t even in the top math and reading class until 4th grade. But I never denied excpetions existed.</p>
<p>@ ee: you make way too many points for me to respond to. I"ll respond to the most ineresting ones.
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<p>These would all presumably cancel out across the entirety of the sample. </p>
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<p>Yes, but it’s more like 5. And it only works for people with a certain gene carrier (if I remember correctly). Also, many of these changes disappear as a person matures. For example, the Head Start program has an effect on IQ that dissipates after a couple of years.</p>
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<p>Good point, but I never started environment was inconsequential. But I raise your good point with a better one. All races in America have gotten taller, but are Asian-Americans (3rd generation or so as to not compound the issue) taller, on average, than blacks?</p>
<p>@ JoeTrumpet:</p>
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<p>Thank you and not to turn this into a mutual admiration society, I enjoy your well thoughtout responses as well. I imagine you can safely assume I’m not lying considering how honest I like to be.</p>
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<p>The researchers who published this were from UC, the same institution attempting to get rid of the SAT. Also, many liberals hate the SAT, most likely b/c of how objective it is. On the original thread (linked on the first post), I stated some possible reasons for the results. Also, I read that there’s a correlation of 0.83 between SAT and SAT II scores. So either, I win!</p>
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<p>Wonderful. Thanks for saying it.</p>
<p>OK NOW FOR EVERYONE!</p>
<p>I can’t believe I completely missed an obvious conclusion from this study that I linked to earlier (Minnesota Twins study…): [Gene</a> Expression](<a href=“http://www.gnxp.com/blog/labels/IQ.php]Gene”>Gene Expression)</p>
<p>The study found genetics account for 75% of general intelligence. Then according to the next link I posted (don’t feel like copying it), IQ was very useful as a predictive measure. OK, well what about the other 25%? Well, there ya go, everyone can be satisfied: because it’s clearly accounted for by work ethic and environment. So I give conclusive data that work ethic can only bring you so far! </p>
<p>So depending on the importance you put on work ethic (I say it’s important but way way less than innate intelligence), we’ll either agree or disagree.</p>