<p>My cousin at Caltech told me to choose Cornell because its engineering and hard sciences are a lot more respected but dartmouth just sounds fancy...what should i do? right now im leaning slightly in favor of Cornell but need help. should i go big red or big green?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>Go with where you want to live for four years. Dartmouth!</p>
<p>I just read that the Cornell engineering program came 4th in after MIT, Caltech, and Stanford. If you are choosing by science and engineering then Cornell is definitely the best in the ivy league.</p>
<p>In terms of science, Cornell is way better hands down</p>
<p>cornell is definitely better in science and engineering. (i do think berkeley ranks above cornell most of the time in engineering though)</p>
<p>if you are really into science and engineering, dartmouth is probably not the ideal school. however, dartmouth kids tend to be much much happier with their college experience than their cornell counterparts. cornell is the most cut throat of the ivies, but if that’s okay with you, then go with cornell. something to think about.</p>
<p>Most people i know at cornell love it - it doesn’t live up to its reputation in terms of being cut throat, although the sciences can be hard (but are they easy anywhere?)</p>
<p>How is Dartmouth’s science program bad? Is it the professors or the academic rigor? It surely can’t be the learning environment because the class sizes are significantly smaller at Dartmouth than at Cornell. My brother goes to Cornell, Orgo Major. Cornell is definitely hard in the sciences.</p>
<p>Whoa I’m kind of in a similar situation. I’m trying to transfer to Cornell from Amherst for the science reason. People tell me the professors are at the forefront of their fields and that students get great research because of it. Wish me luck and maybe we’ll see each other there?!</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/science/07robot.html?partner=rss&emc=rss[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/science/07robot.html?partner=rss&emc=rss</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/31/science/31essa.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/31/science/31essa.html</a></p>
<p>I think those articles best embody my reasons for trying to transfer from Amherst to Cornell.</p>
<p>Hope it helps!</p>
<p>I think your cousin is right. Cornell’s engineering program is very highly regarded and extremely rigorous. Because of its size, Cornell will also have advantages in many of the sciences. However, it all comes down to what YOU want out of your education. </p>
<p>Cornell will give you wonderful science and engineering training. It will be rigorous but take place in a much larger, perhaps impersonal, environment. Dartmouth also offers rigorous programs that, while they won’t have the scale and scope advantages of Cornell, will take place in a smaller, more cohesive community and in a particular context where liberal education is the goal, rather than technical training.</p>
<p>It’s a tough choice, especially if you don’t know what you want. It you haven’t, visit them. You’ll get a real feel for the differences.</p>
<p>I’d say for undergraduate education, the training in science and technology is probably similar in the top 100 schools. It is the other stuff that differentiates one school from another. For example, Cornell’s engineering program accepts community college transfers while Dartmouth won’t even recognize community college credits which,in IMO is kind of elitest attitude.</p>
<p>Cornell is better lol</p>
<p>Dartmouth can’t compete</p>
<p>My son is interested in physics and engineering. He chose Dart (ED admit) because he preferred a LAC education for undergrad. To him Cornell felt big and he did not like it that he would have to commit to a school of engineering right out of high school. We assume he will go to grad school and perhaps Cornell would be an option at that point. The science and engineering there are really first class. But S also wants to ski, do other outdoors stuff, take lots of humanities classes, study abroad and be part of a smaller community. So for him Dartmouth seems perfect. You really have to consider what is a good fit for you and what your goals are for your undergrad years.</p>
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<p>For anyone not transferring from a community college, that is the stupidest reason I’ve ever heard for choosing one college over another.</p>
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A slight correction- for geology, environmental science, and some aspects of biology, Dartmouth is perfectly respectable on the undergraduate level.</p>
<p>go to cornell</p>
<p>cornell science is a lot better. you can go live in a commune and drink beer all day or work with people leading the artificial intelligence revolution</p>
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<p>This is pointless Cornell bashing. Many students at Cornell have a Dartmouth-esque college experience. The join a fraternity, drink beer, party a lot, and play frisbee on the quad.</p>
<p>The difference is that there are also many students at Cornell who have an MIT or Caltech-esque experience.</p>
<p>And speaking as somebody who has attended numerous weddings for both Cornell and Dartmouth alums, students at one school aren’t uniformly happier than at the other.</p>
<p>Plus, if you want to watch competitive Division I sports, Cornell would be your place.</p>
<p>Thread Hijack: Is Dartmouth’s chemistry program good?</p>
<p>For the original question, Cornell’s science/engineering program are more extensive but Dartmouth provides more breadth in terms of the liberal arts. How do FA packages differ? I really would advise checking out the two places!</p>
<p>BTW, I had to choose between the two (going into chem) and I chose Dartmouth b/c of financial aid and undergraduate focus. Cornell is nevertheless an outstanding school! Congrats on getting into both!</p>
<p>“Dartmouth provides more breadth in terms of the liberal arts.”</p>
<p>??? What on earth does this mean , and where did you get that from???
Does someone care to count the courses offered a cornell’s College of arts & sciences this semester, from registrar’s webiste, vs. Dartmouth’s non-engineering course offerings this semester? Then we can see.</p>