Everything you wanted to know or should know about accounting

<p>It’s no sitting around chit chatting in an ER (where my fianc</p>

<p>Plscatamacchia, can I just say that I LOVE that you brought up the funniest show and manager of all time by mentioning Michael Scott! A tip of the hat to you sir! I always wondered what a guy in that sort of position in real life would get paid LOL</p>

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You may find them disgusting but people who choose nursing should have no problem with them.</p>

<p>^^Great logic. This subject is very personal to me as my fiance, mother, grandmother, and sister are/were hospital nurses.</p>

<p>Did I say anywhere in my post that nurses have a right to be disgusted by them? No. I was making a point that it is utterly RIDICULOUS to compare 60 hours in front of a computer screen to even 40 hours working in a hospital as a nurse. If you are someone who sits in front of a computer for 60 hours some weeks than I am here to tell you that compared to the job a nurse performs in the ER, ICU, Med-Surg, etc etc is MANY TIMES more stressful and more difficult work than what you do. End of story. </p>

<p>Poor fella, has carpal tunnel syndrome? Yea, my family members who are nurses who have been punched, spit on, thrown up on, been threatened with a knife…My own mother has no cartilage in her knees because of 30 years of ICU work, but to you they spend a lot of their time sitting around and chit-chatting. My fiance is caring for a 3 year old with leukemia who has virtually no chance of living, and everyday has to explain to his parents that his condition is worsening. My grandmother spent 50 years caring for the mentally ill only to receive threatening phone calls from schizophrenic patients weekly saying they found her address and they were coming to kill her. Yet these are/were only stories they told when asked how their day was, never in a complaining manner. </p>

<p>You’re the bane of the nursing progression and in all honesty should be ashamed that you would compare your cushy office job to someone who deals with life and death everyday. It’s great that you seem to have ample time during your work week to post on a message board, must be tough going to that job everyday. I can only hope that one day, as some old fart, you get stuck with a crappy nurse during an inevitable hospital stay and realize how much of a difference a nurse can make. Until then, I’m guessing that you will somehow reason that you can compare typing for 12 hours to inserting catheters, nasal-gastric tubes, pumping a teenagers stomach, cleaning up every body fluid you know you have and some you don’t and come up with the conclusion that your job is harder. Give me a break.</p>

<p>EDIT: And understand this. I’ve worked 60 hour weeks, I’ve workerd 80 hour weeks - and yes I was tired and cranky but it was nothing a little caffeine and exercise couldn’t fix. However, I’ve made a few emergency room trips (to a hospital in a large inner city area where my fiance works) and the brief images I saw in there haunted me for days. How nurses and doctors can do it everyday I don’t know. There is a reason Doctors and even nurses will ALWAYS be considered more respectable and honorable than any accountant or IT worker (like myself).</p>

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<p>I mean, really dude? What planet are you from? You’re right, continously monitoring 8-10 patient’s vital signs, while dealing with family members isn’t that hard, right?</p>

<p>Oh, crap - one is coding (heart stopped, i’m guessing a guy that thinks auditing is taxing on the mind wouldn’t know this) while you are trying to assist one who is throwing up. You begin to do CPR while you wait for the doctor. Meanwhile another patient rolls in who is bleeding profusely and the nurse has to make sure to do everything she/he can to contain the bleeding while she waits for a doctor.</p>

<p>Phew now the chaos has stopped - it’s time to sit around and “chit-chat” now, right? Nope. Now you have to update your patients drug charts and figure out if any dosages need to be changed. You have to make sure none of the drugs are potentially lethal (BUT PLS THE DOCTORS PRESCRIBE IT AND DOCTORS NEVER MAKE MISTAKES!" Yea tell that to the guys making buttloads from malpractice lawsuits) combinations. Thousands of drugs, thousands of combinations that are harmful, hundreds of side effects - which each patient will feel differently, another thing to worry about.</p>

<p>You get maybe 5 minutes to do that, because it is like a chain reaction with patients. One starts struggling to breathe, one begins to seize, one is having an explosive bowel movement, when an angry spouse starts screaming at you because her husband wanted banana pudding not chocolate, oh yes this is very common. You have to explain to the woman that you have 3 critically ill patients while her husband is stable and you have to worry about the others. Do you think the wife will understand that? Hell no. </p>

<p>I could go on and on.</p>

<p>Yea, auditing requires much more concentration.</p>

<p>“Hmm ok, let me enter this into the system - oh damn the computer told me I made a mistake <strong>backspace, retype</strong> there we go. Phew! That took a lot of concentration!”</p>

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Why the hell are you talking about Nursing in an Accounting thread and arguing over which one is better in depth. Yes, we get being a nurse is harder than auditing.</p>

<p>You obviously have severe mental issues that didn’t get resolved with your therapist when you were a kid/teenager.</p>

<p>My advice would be for you to seek lots of professional help</p>

<p>Please, enlighten me, since when did passion and frustration alone indicate mental illness? The guy twice said (in so many words) that accounting was harder, which was ■■■■■■■■. I had to explain how ■■■■■■■■ that was and I think I did a great job.</p>

<p>You could of condensed your response. The length of your response was sort of like psycho rambling</p>

<p>I was wondering if it’s possible to have an audit internship in the spring while going to school full time (12 credit hours)? I would have two online classes and two night classes during the week</p>

<p>also, would firms hire me for audit internships even though i have yet to take an audit class? if i have an internship in the spring I will have completed intermediate accounting 1 and 2 and cost accounting and control 1. I go to USF and I’m in Beta Alpha Psi</p>

<p>No they will not allow you to take classes and no you don’t have to have audit. They really just want to see you’re in process of taking Int I.</p>

<p>If you (plscatamacchia)consider me a failure of an accountant that is ok. However, as I have previously stated I HAVE NO VESTED INTEREST in lying. If I am a failure so are the vast majority of accounting graduates because they typically do not stay in the field either. If anyone does their own due dilligence they will find out the truth about the astronomical turnover in this profession. “google” "26 Things You Should Know Before Working for A National Accounting Firm"by Dr. David Sativa, or “Why Accounting Practitioners Would Not Major In Accounting Again” by Robert J. Sack ,W. Steve Albrecht.I am on here to let the young people know what they are getting into.I have my CPA, however I think that there are better ways to make a buck. I wonder about the motives of some other posters touting accounting as being so great.I hope that there are no shills on here(some people have over 5000 posts).</p>

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Actually, you were the first one who made the comparison:

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Grinding a 60 hour week as an accountant isn’t hard. My fianc</p>

<p>@ Copies, I’ve seen you put down accounting on many threads before. I’m just wondering, what exactly is your profession, seeing that you left accounting. Not trying to attack you or call you a failure or anything, just genuinely curious</p>

<p>Turnover at the Big Four =/= turnover of the accounting profession as a whole. </p>

<p>People that leave auditing do not become lion tamers, astronauts, janitors, etc. They move to accounting related roles at companies usually, such as Internal Audit, general accounting, financial analyst, etc.</p>

<p>I have read that article, “26 Things You Should Know Before Working for A National Accounting Firm,” and even though it was written 10 years ago, it seems that almost everything holds true this day. However, you can still become happy, and have enough time with your family, while working as an accountant. Probably, you can do it only by working in private accounting. If you ultimate goal is to work for the big 4, you should think before you go there because those sacrifices that you make there may not worth it. Personally, I agree with these lines from the article: </p>

<p>“If you think that working for a national firm for two to three years is
part of your intended course in life, then think again. How can working in
the public accounting environment for two to three years prepare you for
achieving your career goals in private accounting. Is it worth two to three
years of your life so that you can include a national accounting firm’s
name on your resume? If your ultimate goal is private accounting, then
you should start there as soon as possible so that you can reach your goal
in life. Otherwise, a deviation from your goal in life will only serve to
delay your job satisfaction.”</p>

<p>a lot of what’s in that article holds true for management consulting, too</p>

<p>i am supposedly getting big 4 offer this week</p>

<p>tenebrousfire, </p>

<p>I know that you went to UPenn. Did you major in accounting? If you receive the offer from the big 4, are you going to work there, even though you believe that almost everything is true in that article?</p>

<p>Tost, not everyone wants to go into private accounting. You can pursue a top MBA and change careers after a public accounting stint. Also Big 4 -> Private accounting is an easy transition. The article isn’t that great, Big 4 exp is weighted heavily and can help you start off at a higher position in private.</p>

<p>i am not an accountant, i am a consultant</p>

<p>and yep, got offer, accepted, here we go</p>

<p>tenebrousfire, what do you major in to become a consultant? i thought it was accounting. or is it something else?</p>