Explanation of my Previous Post

Colleges and Universities A-Z Princeton University
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<p>To address I wanna be brown's comment, no I was accepted by UPenn and Cornell and chose to attend a UC over both of them. I was rejected by Harvard and Yale, and did not bother applying to Princeton because of the stories I heard about this school. As far as most of the people who scored above the 99.9% percentile on the SAT are concerned (I scored in the 99.991% percentile), only Harvard and maybe Yale is worth leaving California. </p>

<p>There is a common perception among minority students in California that Princeton is not a friendly school for minorities, compared to California Ivies. I am sorry that some of you find this information being known to other students disturbing, but facts are facts, and students have a right to know what they are getting themselves into for 4 years, and 160 K of their parents money.</p>

<p>Latez!</p>

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<p>I prefer first-hand knowledge to hearsay, stereotype, and rumor, West Sidee. Such things are not "facts." </p>

<p>Interesting that you began your multiple threads by first imploring parents to be worried about their daughters, and then you turned to rallying the Asian community. Seems to me MOST people would direct their disgust towards the sicko perpetrator.</p>

<p>Thankfully, as a parent who has an '08 at Princeton, I can easily discount what you say, in fact find it ludicrous as well as insulting. I especially find it insulting to my child's Asian friends, who are just as much a part of the Princeton community, just as much valued for their contributions in all areas of campus life and as great friends and great people, as anyone else at Princeton. I would be embarassed to think that you imagine you speak for any group of people, for I hope most people--no matter what race or ethnicity----would be more open minded and careful in their discourse and in their decisions than you have been. In fact, some of your statements, had they been directed towards an individual rather than an institution, would be downright slanderous. If I were you I would be grateful for the patience heretofore afforded you.</p>

<p>I am happy to hear of your school choice. I can only hope that one of the things you learn at UC is to seek knowledge and truth, and that you will make better use of your time than spewing uninformed nonsense and fear mongering. If you wish to represent minority students or Californians with your sweeping statements, you might be concerned about the "perception" that you yourself present, but thankfully most people are astute enough not to judge an entire community by one bad apple in it.</p>

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<p>West Sidee... I am apalled.</p>

<p>Writing a response is useless.</p>

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<p>"There is a common perception among minority students in California that Princeton is not a friendly school for minorities, compared to California Ivies. I am sorry that some of you find this information being known to other students disturbing, but facts are facts, and students have a right to know what they are getting themselves into for 4 years, and 160 K of their parents money."</p>

<p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA</p>

<p>california has the largest representation at princeton, more so than any other state in the US. i have lived both in cali and az, the west coast for all my life and i have never heard this rumor. i dunno where u live but it must be poor, ghetto and full of uneducated kids to have something this wrong to be spread</p>

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<p>Actually, my high school average SAT is higher than most top 20 universities. This was well known amongst our class. Arizona with their "border patrol" that hunts and kills mexicans isn't exactly a model of open ideas and free exchange of thoughts and unfettered academia.</p>

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<p>West Sidee, I'm from California, and Princeton was my first choice, followed closely by Yale, and Harvard was my #4. Maybe in terms of prestige Harvard beats out the other schools, but that's no reason to pick a school, and it's no reflection of the quality of the undergraduate education (Harvard has built its reputation on the quality of its grad programs). Although many of my close friends dreamed of Harvard through childhood, by the time they had visited and researched schools, most of them ended up with Princeton as a first choice for the same reason that i did: look at the mission statement on its website--it strives to be the finest undergraduate institution in the world, and many would argue that it is. </p>

<p>Any preconceptions that you may have about the school, while they may have been true 20 or 30 years ago, are certainly not true today. Princeton has become very progressive; just look at the female president and female-dominated leadership (it is the only of the 3 schools that has had a female president, it has the largest % of women as deans, the largest % in leadership roles, and largest % on the board of trustees). With the new admission dean, the school has admitted a population of minorities that outnumbers those of Harvard and Yale. Plus, it has a larger percentage of students on financial aid than either school. Of course there are bad stories about any school, and I'm sure there are small segments of the school--as with any school, especially any elite school--that are not very accepting, but when looking at the overall demographic picture, Princeton does not significantly differ from Harvard, Yale, or Stanford (although Stanford has a higher population of asians than the other schools).</p>

<p>Comparing Princeton to "California Ivies" is comparing apples to oranges. Californians, as we both know, are a very diverse group, and naturally CA schools have the edge in diversity, but that doesn't mean that you'd find a less welcoming climate on the east coast. In fact, when I visited Stanford, the campus seemed to be more polarized than the other ones I visited, with its "themed" housing system that creates campus factions and boundaries among the different races.</p>

<p>You cannot speak for all Californians. As a matter of fact, as Shrek said, California is the most represented state in Princeton's most recently admitted class.</p>

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<p>^ Well given the fact that Californians scored 1/4 of all the perfect SAT scores recently, even though Californians make up only 1/7th of the US population speaks greatly in itself. California is highly represented at all elite schools. </p>

<p>I did not know that Princeton had a woman President. That is good to know. Hopefully the alumni of 20 years ago do not include any restrictions with their donations of reverting Princeton back to its old days. Given Harvard's recent comments on women engineers and their supposed inferiority, you can see my alarming reaction to the case of the guy who sprayed his sperm on 50 Asian women. </p>

<p>Well, of all people, you have spoken of Princeton in the most frank, open, and respectable manner Christopher. Hopefully you will continue to grow wherever you are at in life. Thanks for your post.</p>

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<p>princeton's president shirley tilghman is also, incidentally, an atheist, a canadian, a molecular biologist, and a single mother. really, despite a slight imbalance in favor of male students, princeton has been a very friendly place for females in the last few years. for example, the female presidents of brown (ruth simmons) and penn (amy gutmann) both held high-level administrative positions at princeton before their appointments. even with their appointments, women still enjoy excellent representation in the princeton admin, including the dean of admission, the dean of the college, the dean of undergraduate students, and the deans of both the school of engineering and the woodrow wilson school.</p>