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Me neither, though I may be interested now. Does anyone know if the extension is technically available for all applicants?</p>
<p>This is not a game to be won or lost. </p>
<p>Asians(ORM’s)are plentiful at the college level. Increasing their numbers would not bring diversity. Bashing one another on this board serves no good purpose. Colleges place an importance on diversity if that upsets you don’t apply to that college.</p>
<p>Just to add a note…
Everybody just looks at how they are affected at an individual level. Colleges look at the larger picture…trying to educate the fastest growing popoulation in this country.</p>
<p>The purpose of affirmative action, as I understand, is both to add to diversity and make a quality education more accessible for disadvantaged people (NOT as a form of “reparation”). I support those two goals. I think a better way to achieve those goals would be a form of affirmative action based on socioeconomic status rather than race. I think that a wealthy African Amercian (or any other race) family can provide as many opportunities as a wealthy white family. A white family living in poverty will face many of the same challenges that a minority family would face. While a system like this is not perfect, I think it is a much better way to encourage equal opportunity and social mobility. </p>
<p>On the topic of “reparations,” I don’t particularly like these arguments that affirmative action should not exist because none of the current applicants have suffered the injustices of slavery. While UofICPA does come across as “selfish,” he does make a valid point. Many African Americans remain economically disadvantaged as a result of slavery and then racism. However, I think that only those who are still disadvantages should receive a bump in college admissions, for the reasons I already mentioned. </p>
<p>In general, I would say that the problem we should be addressing is the problem that an elite college education is not equally accessible to all people. However, I think that disadvantage comes from poverty rather than race, and as such socioeconomic status would be a better way to apply affirmative action.</p>
<p>whoa… I wish there was a way to unsubscribe to threads, because ones like this always end up in people slinging racial slurs.</p>
<p>-sigh-</p>
<p>I wish threads would actually stay on topic and not turn into these long-winded debates…I actually thought there were 3 pages on the deadline. turns out to be more of AA debate. Why does this always happen</p>
<p>^I know how you feel :/</p>
<p>Do colleges really have “affirmative action” policies? The way I understand it is that admissions doesn’t set any official quotas; it crafts a class based on what each student offers the community–racial diversity is considered as well as socioeconomic. When they read the application of a student who has overcome serious adversity, they take note of it.</p>
<p>@UofICPA–You present as a victim and an opportunist. Your presenting as a biggot and racist is absolutely repulsive.</p>
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<p>That could not be farther from any argument made on this thread.</p>
<p>Everyone supports diversity. Not everyone supports reparations for slavery. (There is a difference between a socioeconomic focus and a blind giveaway for “reparations.” There are many victims in this country, not only blacks.)</p>
<p>Can this thread be closed it’s gone completely off topic!</p>
<p>I’ve been lurking on CC for years, trying to help my daughter to prepare for college as best as a non-graduate parent can. I came to this thread because she received a similar letter. </p>
<p>I’ve never ventured a post until now only because I was trying to learn, and I have learned a great deal from the CC community over the years. Thank you. But this thread concerns me.</p>
<p>Should my daughter take advantage of Dartmouth’s kind outreach and apply? If so, and if accepted and should she attend, will she face this type of bigotry from both sides? </p>
<p>Yes, she is Hispanic, but her grades, board scores, activities, ranking and scientific research experiences must surely be the reason why she received this letter? I hope so.</p>
<p>How could this thread degenerate into being about URMs, ORMs and angry white men?</p>
<p>Aren’t we passed this yet?</p>
<p>I submitted my application and supplement before the deadline so receiving this letter threw me off. However, upon closer consideration I discovered I had completely overlooked the peer review and am thus extremely grateful for this extension. </p>
<p>My question is, could applicants be in any way penalized for taking advantage of the extension? For example, submitting the peer review under the blanket of a new Jan.21 deadline. </p>
<p>Thanks :)</p>
<p>I can assure you that no one at Dartmouth (or any top school, for that matter) will denigrate your daughter and her accomplishments and/or question her being admitted. I encourage her to apply.</p>
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<p>The people making the argument (myself included) were in support of affirmative action, I want that to be clear. In fact, our entire point was that the policy’s purpose should be to * increase * diversity and nothing else. Do not let this deter your daughter from applying.</p>
<p>@ CoolRunning: How would Dartmouth know of your daughter’s activities, science research, grades, and ranking without her actually submitting an application? Not to belittle what she’s done in any way – I’m just saying, colleges pay to receive the standardized test scores of applicants above a certain range, and the ethnicity / race of those scorers. And presumably Dartmouth didn’t send every high-scorer a personal letter.</p>
<p>I have a different question:</p>
<p>Will Dartmouth notify applicants once they’ve received peer evals? I sent mine in my snail mail around the 20th of December.</p>
<p>@RainbowSprinkles, I believe your peer evaluator had the option of indicating if they wanted a response from Dartmouth to ensure the peer evaluation was recieved. However, they also have an application portal for which you should have received a login and PIN. They will also email or call you later in January if they are missing anything.</p>
<p>Yes, I forgot to include a postcard for confirmation. I haven’t received an ID yet (applied on Dec 28th), but many others haven’t either, so I’ll just wait patiently.</p>
<p>Before the extended deadline, applications submitted by students of color are already 17 percent higher than last year’s figures.
Extending the deadline for minority students is a recruiting strategy.
Why are they looking for additional applications that face a 90% rejection rate?
It may be that they are not satisfied with the quality of this particular applicant pool.
This is about increasing selectivity , not increasing access.</p>
<p>Maria Laskaris, dean of admissions and financial aid, said in an interview with The Dartmouth “We have invested a great deal of our time and resources into building a diverse applicant pool for Dartmouth and have terrific success in terms of the programs that we develop".</p>
<p>[TheDartmouth.com:</a> Applications reach record high](<a href=“http://thedartmouth.com/2011/01/12/news/admissions]TheDartmouth.com:”>http://thedartmouth.com/2011/01/12/news/admissions)</p>
<p>To CoolRunning:</p>
<p>I’m a Dartmouth student. I won’t weigh in on the debate taking place, but I will say that Dartmouth is a very open, understanding community. It is tolerant of almost all viewpoints, but it will not tolerate racism. There was an article published in The Dartmouth, our student newspaper, which was borderline racist, and there was a universal uproar on campus. The article was subsequently removed from The D’s website.</p>
<p>If your daughter is as impressive as you say she is, Dartmouth will welcome her with open arms.</p>
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<p>To BraveUlysses:</p>
<p>What’s wrong with recruiting the most talented minority students? All the top colleges fight for them, and Dartmouth is no exception.</p>