<p>learn that you are a hypocritical, patronizing moron that needs to get a life. My posts have all been informed and polite and they express my opinion. I have said these views to very educated people, who agree with them. You are simply incapable of posting an actual substantive post and instead resort to stupid insults. get a life....or extra time.</p>
<p>Bescraze, your posts have not been well-informed, as people have pointed out to you. You have expressed ignorance of the process by which people are given extra time on the SAT, expressed ignorance of what LDs are, expressed ignorance of laws covering disabilities, and so on.</p>
<p>You may not want to believe that you are ignorant on the topic, but your posts here have clearly expressed your ignorance in this area. Sure, you have an opinion, and you can express it, of course (and have), but that doesn't mean the opinion expressed comes from well-informed reasoning.</p>
<p>Please look up the definitions of "hypocritical," and "moron," and find more appropriate words to use to lash out at me. "Patronizing" does get across your intended meaning.</p>
<p>Certainly, those with genuine disabilities should be given extra time. My question remains why these extra accommodations are not indicated on the transcript. If a student has a true disability, wouldn't he/she reveal it in essays as an example of overcoming tremendous personal obstacles? Would he/she want to attend a college that might discriminate on basis of disability? (Hypothetically speaking, since that would be very illegal.)</p>
<p>Using an asterisk or other indicator of special accommodations would benefit both sides, IMO.</p>
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<p>What, everyone has to write about overcoming tremendous personal obstacles? Everyone with a disability has to consider that disability as a tremendous personal obstacle?</p>
<p>Accommodations are used to level the playing field. Using an asterisk or other indicator of accommodations would remove the leveling.</p>
<p>owlice, the playing field would still be theoretically level--just like many colleges are theoretically need-blind. An asterisk would discourage the "fake" disabilities that some students use to game the system. Like everything in life, it's a tradeoff--like the governmental tradeoff of law vs. privacy.</p>
<p>Keilexandra, how would a college distinguish between a (supposed) "fake" disability and a real one? If the playing field would still be theoretically level, how would an asterisk discourage the "fake" disabilities that some students supposedly use?</p>
<p>It is NOT easy to get accommodations on an SAT. The disability has to be well-documented and accommodations requested have to have been used in the school setting. Despite what you might read from others, it's not as simple as "get a piece of paper from a doctor, get extra time." Really.</p>
<p>Someone dear to me is very intelligent with a learning disability. She has extra time if she wants to use it on SATS and AP (calc and cbem). Extra time is not handed out indiscriminately. To the unfair question, I can tell you lots of things in life are unfair so grow up. . Being called a ■■■■■■ in middle school by your peers when you know you are way more intelligent than them, thats unfair. Being taken out of math class to work on spelling when you are really really good at math, thats unfair. For those who think its unfair that this person gets extra time… If you don’t get the extra time and you score low, do you really think lack of time was the problem? Be honest with yourself. If yes, maybe you have an undiagnosed LD, if not, perhaps you are not as smart as you wish you were. Or imagine this… got to the bookstore get yourself an SAT book and practice your butt off. Maybe your score will go up?</p>
<p>Trust me this persons score would be very nice even without extra time. With extra time mayb her her essay will be legible.</p>
<p>I agree with you wholeheartedly my friend. Several reasons:</p>
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<li><p>No regulation. There is no standard list of illness or afflictions that extra time may be granted for. Most common are dyslexia and ADHD, but the College Board technically recognizes “many physical and psychological disorders”. Where does one draw the line? If I had a death in the family the week before the SAT, why should I not get extra time? Everyone has problems with which they have to deal with. Which brings to me to my next point…</p></li>
<li><p>Easy to manipulate. ABC ran a report about wealthier children being much more likely to have extra time then any other socioeconomic group a while back. Not much else to say, the article does a good job of making this point: [Does</a> Loophole Give Rich Kids More Time on SAT? - ABC News](<a href=“Does Loophole Give Rich Kids More Time on SAT? - ABC News”>Does Loophole Give Rich Kids More Time on SAT? - ABC News)</p></li>
<li><p>It’s a standardized test (but not actually). The SAT was invented to compare kids across all the country who go to schools with different curricula and levels of intensity. Adding extra time and segregating a group of individuals defeats this purpose.</p></li>
<li><p>Life doesn’t have extra time. Once one finishes his/her education, extra time is over. The boss doesn’t magically extend deadline another three days because you have ADHD. There are no companies with only people who need extra time. One is still competing against everyone else, regardless of their afflictions.</p></li>
<li><p>Time management. Time management is still an issue that “normal” kids face on the SAT. I personally ran out of time for my essay. Should I have gotten extra time? I think I could have since I have mild ADD… and a severe case of chronic indolence.</p></li>
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<p>You assume that people can’t be smart AND have serious LD, which is blatantly wrong.</p>
<p>Yes, MANY people play the system, but that doesn’t mean the concept itself is bad.</p>
<p>Extra time doesn’t help that much, unless you REALLY do need it. If you get it and you don’t need it, you have to sit in the testing area for 6 hours, and by the last few sections you are completely burned out. The current time per section is all that you need, unless you have a disability.</p>
<p>I agree with the person above me.</p>
<p>I have extended time on everything but crit reading, and this is how i did:</p>
<p>I went down from a 750 to a 680 in math (from psat scores)
Went up from a 700 to a 780 in crit reading
Went down from a 700 to a 680 in writing.</p>
<p>Believe me, extra time is NOT a gimmee 2400</p>
<p>And the sad thing is, nobody here knows how extremely difficult it is to get accomodations from the college board. EXTREMELY difficult.</p>
<p>A slip of paper from the doctor doesn’t cut it</p>
<p>yea but a 1500$ bribe does…tlashley posted the news article from abc stating it…this is a very complex issue, can’t really take a side…</p>
<p>Never heard of that.</p>
<p>But even so, is that a problem with extended time or bribery?</p>
<p>While an old thread, this issue will never go away. As the parent of a student who got extra time, I always want to ask those who complain if they’d be willing to get the extra time AND have to deal with the reasons they’re getting extra time FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. Package deal. Surprisingly, nobody wants the issues my son will struggle with.</p>
<p>Hate to break it to you, folks, but extra time on a relatively insignificant test isn’t going to make or break anyone. Certainly, there are issues here (though usually not the ones people complain about), but the level of angst is way out of proportion for what’s being discussed. Guess I should know better than to expect high school seniors to have much perspective.</p>
<p>Thank you for your intelligent reply andputting my thoughts beautifully.</p>
<p>Do you guys believe that someone who is HALF blind deserves extra time on the SAT?
How about HALF deaf?</p>
<p>Just wondering because I know a few people who qualify for the above and got extra time…</p>
<p>You can’t take a few egregious cases and then claim that extended time for everyone shuld be revoked.</p>
<p>Also, in another point, you DO get extended time in life.
It’s called staying up late or cutting off some breaks. Many adhd people work longer and stay up later than those who don’t in order to get work done.</p>
<p>Extended time in life is granted if you take less time off.</p>
<p>My brother has autism. He frequently gets distracted and he has trouble taking tests.</p>
<p>If you feel that it is unfair he get extra time on a test, then let me ask you: how unfair is it that he will have autism for the rest of his life? </p>
<p>I’m sorry you feel cheated over the approximate 4 or 5 years of your life when this test matters. I’m sorry my brother will be cheated for 60 to 70 years of his life.</p>