<p>Can someone please explain to me the implications of obtaining the "eye waiver" during the medical part of the admissions process. We are starting the process but as of the last school physical had less that 20/20 in one eye - but definitely correctable. He currenltly wears a contact in affected eye. Does having to obtain this waiver decrease your chances for an appointment? BTW - He wants to be Marine Infantry - no aspirations of being a pilot.</p>
<p>I'm fairly certain that anything worse than 20/40 requires a waiver. Then again that could be fresh in my head because 20/40 uncorrected is the limit for pilot... If he needs a waiver than it will make the appointment a little bit tougher. To put into perspective, when I went through admissions my BGO told me that with good vision I would be a "sure shot" to get in, but with my waiver I would still probably get in. As far as I know nothing has changed in the past five years and the way it was explained to me then was that only 1/3 of each class could have waivers. With that in mind, if more than 1/3 of applicants have a medical waiver, than application for that specific subset becomes tougher.</p>
<p>If any of my info is off any BGOs out there fell free to chime in</p>
<p>Chiming in. Criteria has changed. It changed commencing with Class of 2011.Check the new on-line catalog for the latest. Doesn't sound like a waiver will be required.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>As long as his anisometrophia is less than 3.5 diopters, he should pass the eyesight portion of DODMERB.</p>
<p>Vision not correctable to 20/20 needs a waiver.</p>
<p>Uncorrected vision in excess of 20/400 needs a waiver.</p>
<p>Myopia (or hyperopia) in excess of -6/+6 diopters needs a waiver.</p>
<p>Anisometrophia that exceeds 3.5 diopters needs a waiver.</p>
<p>DODMERB Disqualification Codes</p>
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<p>I didn't realize that the change is so recent. My son was horrified at his Dodmerb to find out that his 20/40 had gone to 20/200. He passed Dodmerb with no waiver and has received appointment.</p>
<p>My eyesight is -5.5 diopters in both eyes...and as far as I know I did not need a waiver. I never heard a thing about my eyesight, the letter of acceptance just showed up at my door</p>
<p>Got DQ for Anisometrophia that exceeds 3.5 diopters and
distant visual acuatiy not correctable to 20/20.<br>
last eye exam 20/20 right eye 20/100 left eye
Recieved appointment to USNA last week...any one out there ever got a waiver for this? That's all I need and I don't plan on being a pilot.</p>
<p>How do you have an appointment?? I thought no appointments were given until all waivers are cleared up. Did you get an LOA perhaps?</p>
<p>on DodMerb site status LOA
Recieved letter guaranteeing appointment, sorry I may have mis represented, if I recieve waiver. Called addmisssions and they are reviewing.</p>
<p>How bad are these numbers for vision???</p>
<p>I need a waiver:</p>
<p>DQ 155.41 not correctable to 20/20</p>
<p>+0.25 -1.00 085</p>
<p>-0.25 -0.25 075</p>
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<p>Will I get one for NROTC or USNA</p>
<p>The problem is not the numbers you posted. Those numbers are your refractive error and it is almost normal except for a small amount of astigmatism in the right eye. The real issue is their statement that you are not 20/20 with the correction.</p>
<p>If there was no other explanation as to why you were not correctable to 20/20, then I would suggest seeking an eye exam from an optometrist or ophthalmologist to confirm this and explain why you are not 20/20. Not seeing 20/20 may suggest that you have some sort of ocular pathology. </p>
<p>The presence of astigmatism or even significant myopia (up to -6.75 Diopters) is not a disqualification so long as it corrects you to 20/20 in each eye (although both need to be correctable for the service academies). ROTC is slightly more lenient and will allow one eye to be slightly off with correction so long as one eye is 20/20.</p>
<p>Here is a good summary of the vision requirements for both ROTC and Service Academies:
[url=<a href="http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/eyes2.htm%5DVision%5B/url">http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/eyes2.htm]Vision[/url</a>]</p>
<p>It is possible that the initial eye exam may be incorrect in which case a waiver will be easy.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Thanks RiverRat.....it does help....</p>
<p>At the risk of sounding really dumb, are one of my eyes okay???? I followed the link and saw if one is correctable to 20/20 and the other 20/100 I may be okay for NROTC.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>You may be OK for NROTC, but if one eye is not 20/20, I believe you will need a waiver. In that case they will have to take into account why your "bad" eye is not 20/20. If their is some ongoing disease process or unstable situation or perhaps limitation in other parameters such as peripheral visual field or color vision, you still may not get a waiver and pass.</p>
<p>So the short answer is, it depends.</p>
<p>navymaybe - </p>
<p>The only person qualified to answer your question is Larry Mullen, Deputy Director of DODMERB. </p>
<p>He monitors the DODMERB section at United</a> States of America Service Academy Forums . </p>
<p>Post in the DODMERB section and you will have an answer within the hour.</p>
<p>Agreed. But his answer will be based on the accuracy of the data he is given. </p>
<p>What you have posted regarding your eye exam is incomplete. Either the refraction is incorrect and you can be corrected to 20/20 or you do have some vision problem that needs to be diagnosed.</p>
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<p>Not really, since Larry Mullen has the ability to go and look at the actual exam results, not just what the candidate believes are the results. </p>
<p>He (LM) can also speak to the reviewing physician(s) at DODMERB to clarify any inconsistencies and to correct any inaccuracies.</p>
<p>He is a resource to use. Candidates can either accept his help or keep guessing at things he can answer with 100% accuracy.</p>
<p>Call him yourself, he publicly posts his phone number(s) as well as his email address, and he answers 100% of the contacts he receives.</p>
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<p>I certainly understand this and have been involved in the process. I see exam results also, and my point is that in the case of a subjective test like a refraction, at times it is not 100% accurate. Seeing the results, like a refraction or vision test, does not mean it is correct. It may be, in which case there has to be some reason he is not 20/20 and Larry Mullen can then be the definitive answer and tell him why he can not see 20/20. But we don't know otherwise from what the candidate originally posted.</p>
<p>If you were told your eye exam was not normal, wouldn't you want to find out what the problem was? The candidate can certainly speak to Larry Mullen, but I would still want to talk to a health care professional who actually gives the exam and inquire as to what the problem is. It didn't sound like the candidate knew what his problem was, which was the whole point of my discussion. </p>
<p>This is less about trying to end run the system, but about finding out as much as one can about any medical/health problems they may have and have to deal with in the future, whether they go into the military or not. DODMERB does a fantastic job, but they are there to help determine whether candidates are medically fit/qualified for the military, not to follow up and treat any diagnosed abnormalities or problems.</p>
<p>I think we are stating points on two separate issues. One is to find out whether you have a problem or not. The other is whether or not you will qualify.</p>
<p>I still think its possible that the refraction could be incorrect (my opinion based on experiences and the very minimal information supplied by the candidate). Happens not infrequently. If that is the case, there is no problem, and therefore, not visually disqualified.</p>
<p>Candidate needs more information. Nothing wrong with calling Larry Mullen. I, however, would also go to an eye care professional who will talk to me and have them answer all of my questions as to my vision after they examine me.</p>
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<p>I agree 100%. If the candidate has questions about his health, he should contact his physician at once, regardless of his current or future medical status at DODMERB.</p>
<p>However if he is curious as to his military medical qualification status using the results he has already submitted, a non-DODMERB physician is of no help.</p>
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<p>I concur.</p>