FA for Andover?$$$$!

<p>@master- I don’t think you know what your talking about? Illinois has a REALLY good math stat.
@prepveteran-thank you.
@boardinschool- I thhink Mainer was fine they gave an average and wasn’t rude about it…?@candidate- thanks for the serious comments. Their highly appreciated. </p>

<p>EVERYONE- In my area and state i am high middle class. I don’t care about your states- In mine I am. Theres not use in bickering about MA or NJ or wherever- I didn’t mean that was the average US house, I meant thats how it is where I live.</p>

<p>[Dan</a> Gross: Is $250,000 a Middle-Class Salary? - Newsweek](<a href=“http://www.newsweek.com/2008/08/26/sorry-pal-you-re-rich.html]Dan”>Dan Gross: Is $250,000 a Middle-Class Salary?)</p>

<p>[2005</a> US Income Distribution ? Visualizing Economics](<a href=“http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/2006/11/05/2005-us-income-distribution/]2005”>2005 US Income Distribution — Visualizing Economics)</p>

<p>If your family income’s between $200,000 and $300,000, you are not middle class. However, it is possible to feel that the family can’t afford the expense of boarding school. Some expenses which can’t be put off or easily pared down are mortgage costs and student loan debt. </p>

<p>I suggest that you speak with your parents, not this message board, about whether your family can afford to send you to boarding school. You could point out that, while you’re at school, your family will have lower grocery bills. If your parents need to transport you to local activities and school, they should deduct that expense from their budget. On the other hand, there are other fees which come into play, such as travel expenses, activity fees, and such things as the cost of a computer.</p>

<p>its commonly known that 200k isn’t high class or low class- therefore middle. I don’t get why you feel the need to say its not middle class when i explained it is for my neighborhood, area and 200k is considered middle class to a majority of the people. I have said before that I’ll talk to my parents but im trying to get the numbers together first. Thanks for the info.</p>

<p>I don’t know if this is helpful- or even why I’m adding to this thread, but the sad fact is that financial aid people usually don’t care what part of the country you come from. We live in a very expensive art of the country. However, for financial aid purposes (prep school and college), we are treated as the same as if we were from Mississippi or Iowa. Talking to your parents is probably a much better idea than trying to figure it out from this chat board. Good luck!</p>

<p>its all about prioritizing. im just going to say that my family has a high income. the amount doesnt matter, and im just not going to give a ballpark estimate either. at first, my parents didnt want to spend the money. regardless of how much your income is, it can be expensive depending on what your values are on things worth spending. sure a vacation may be cut, or money may be looked after more carefully, but if it is worth it and unless u are making a low income, you can find a way to scrape by and still get yourself to bs. my point is, that you may come arrogant alo because you CAN afford bs if you want it without the scholarship. i requested FA at all the schools i applied to for the heck of it. dont go that route if you want to have options. i was accepted to andover, but im not going to be getting any FA. so basically, you dont make a low enough amount of money to be considered “worth the investment” to an admissions committee. andover is the only one i would suggest requesting. otherwise, think over if bs is worth the money for you AND your family.</p>

<p>@candidate-why wouldn’t I at least try for FA? The worst they can do is reject me or say no to it. Thats not real smart to say only use it or andover…</p>

<p>alo dont push it. “the worst thing they can do is reject me”. lol y would trying that be worthwhile. dear me, i put so much effort into writing my previous post and it seems like you totally disregarded. alo im actually trying to help u…take it from someone who has been there.</p>

<p>Alo, as I wrote earlier but you seemed to ignore – it absolutely does matter if you apply for FA. Andover is truly need blind but other schools (in this economy and even with huge endowments) will consider a FA applicant different from a full pay one. I think most on CC would agree that it is harder to get accepted when applying for FA. Your application is in a different pile. So it can indeed “hurt to ask.”</p>

<p>I didn’t disregard any of your comments & I don’t appreciate you saying I did considering I responded to you guys. I understand what your saying but I can’t afford it ( don’t comment on if i cut back i could- my parents have said I can’t unless i get FA) so theres no point applying without FA since my parents wouldn’t send me. Please don’t tell me that my attitude of “the worst thing they can do is reject me” is wrong. Considering I won’t be heartbroken and crying unlike other people if they don’t get in, its a good attitude and canidate considering you said you’ve been there I think you should get that. Crar- you complained I responded rudely to you so I obviously took time to reply to you ad didn’t ignore you…? i never said “hurt to ask” so please don’t quote me on something I never said. I know its harder to get in with FA but theres no point in waisting money on applications and prep. classes if I won’t be able to afford the school. I don’t think you guys seem to get its not practical for any middle class ( once again my opion so don’t start up a fight anyone) family to not at least apply for FA also considering I can’t go without it it would be dumb to not go for it. I replied to both of you and therefore I didn’t ignore you. Next time please don’t say I ignored or disregarded your comment if I took time to reply to you.</p>

<p>Oh my. Alo said: “why wouldn’t I at least try for FA? The worst they can do is reject me or say no to it.”</p>

<p>And I said it DOES hurt and then you actually admit you know that it hurts your chances. So that is a reason not to ask for it.</p>

<p>Besides of course, someone making the kind of money your dad makes is unlikely to receive significant aid. FA is meant for people who need it, to make bs possible when it would be impossible. For someone in your income bracket, with only 2 children and neither in independent schools, it seems very unlikely you will qualify for significant aid. ALL of your college savings counts too – the SSS does not care if you cannot touch it. My children’s savings accounts and college (measly amounts not a lot like you said you have) accounts are utilized in determining awards. The system is flawed and far from perfect but you think you know better. You don’t seem to like anything anyone says that is a reality check about people making over a quarter of a million dollars getting significant FA and how hard it is to be accepted to any of these schools, not just A/E. </p>

<p>I wish you well with your free ride to Andover. Better make sure you get in first though. Let us know how that works out for you.</p>

<p>alo let me tell u something. my family has one child in private school because of learning disabilities, we have THE highest property taxes in the country. 40% of my dad’s salary goes to the government. there are ways to get urself to bs without the FA, trust me they arent going to give u much if u do. people who get full scholarships make almost 4 times less than ur dad does. so dont crying to ccers if u dont get in because of FA. :)</p>

<p>candidate- to be perfectly blunt what is your problem? You are needlessly rude and seem very bitter, maybe thats just the way your comment reads but I don’t get it. I explained my situation to you so i don’t get why you have to be such a rude commenter. I don’t think I ever did anything to make you hate me considering you don’t know me, so you need to cool down. I explained what my parents said and what the conditions are so don’t lecture me that people with 1/4 of my family’s income gets free FA. They need full which I know I don’t I just wanted to know. If people are as nasty as some of the ccers ( on this post ) at boarding school then count me out.</p>

<p>@crar-did you even read my message? I said i HAVE to apply for FA or else im not going so why are you still giving me reasons not to apply? What you just posted about myself has nothing to do with the subject of this.
“The system is flawed and far from perfect but you think you know better.” NEVER said I did know better but I applaud your effort at trying to make me look bad. too bad it just backfired:)
“You don’t seem to like anything anyone says” Considering I reply thank you to all the comments that aren’t rude or offensive (wither they think I’ll get it or not) I don’t think you have your facts straight.
“a reality check about people making over a quarter of a million dollars getting significant FA and how hard it is to be accepted to any of these schools, not just A/E.” Might want to read comments closely. im 90% sure we’ll be just about breaking even at $200,000 this year. I’m pretty sure I’ve said something like that already and I don’t appreciate you being so negative. You could have simply said. “Okay well it will be harder to get in but best of luck” but no, you have to go and say rude things. Also I never asked for a “Signifigant amount” I asked for an estimate on what I’d get and told you what I would be allowed to go on. I can’t help it if my parents are fairly frugal and don’t see the need for BS when I have a very good HS I’m attending.</p>

<p>what crar said was realistic. ur a classic case of a n00b thats given me the blues. that rhymes :slight_smile: alo we tried to help you but you put down everything EVERYONE says. get over yourself and welcome to cc bud. you are not scaring anyone you are ONLY making yourself look bad.</p>

<p>im a noob? wow with that wonderful vocabulary I’m surprised you got in anywhere. considering I said thankyou to over 25 people,alot of which said I wouldn’t get in or any at all, I doubt i put down everything EVERYONE says. I’m not concerned with myself considering I’ve volenterred for Habitat for Humanity every summer since 5th grade. I’ve also been working at a christian open food pantry and working out at the no kill animal shelter before I even heard of BS so I think you might want to rethink your comment. I’m not trying to scare anyone unlike you:) nice job repeating my comeback. thats real cool too.</p>

<p>what was the comment again?
why do you think you’re qualified for Andover? I just think if you can’t get in, why worry about FA?</p>

<p>I could get in. Its dumb to say why worry about financial reasons if you won’t get in considering I don’t want to put $500 of our money into test if i won’t be able to afford it.
the comment was: @boardingschool- " Also I still think its funny I’ve asked you to show me where I said that i was entitled to FA at least 3 times & you still haven’t replied back on that." You kept saying I thought i was entitled to it.</p>

<p>Alo313: Don’t listen to what all these people on CC are saying. People have been really into fight wars lately (maybe their sad because they don’t have boarding school till Sept…oh well). Apply for FA and see where it takes you. Unlike what some people are saying if your income level is 200,000+, you still have a chance. The financial aid forms don’t just look at your pet, income level, or property taxes. They look at more than that (trust me I know). All my siblings go to private school and so do I and I still got a great amount of Financial Aid.</p>

<p>*Don’t worry about what people are saying on this forum. (If you look at the posts from last year of these same people worrying as much you, you’d probably wonder if they were the same people!) I think alot people are misunderstanding your posts and/or wish their parents made as much money as yours. Apply for whatever school you want and ** remember ** study for the SSAT and don’t spend too much time on CC. Adcoms (at least at Exeter) ask what you did over the summer and “hangin’ out on CC” is not the answer they will be expecting…:)</p>

<p>urban im not into starting a war. i just know that im so sick of arrogant people and i know that other people think so too. i wish cc was the way it used to be. @ alo- great to know that u flip out at anything u dont like. good luck.</p>

<p>Urbanflop- I appreciate you taking the time to answer seriously. thank you:)
cnadidate-Once again I say thank you to any comment, even if they say i won’t get in, unless their needlessly rude. Thats why you haven’t gotten a thank you.</p>

<p>i never said you would never get in. but who knows it’s not like you know how to take as you say “blunt” comments. imho you better change ur attitude. and i dont look for thank yous i look for people who are listening to some legit advice. :P</p>