Facelifts, fillers, Botox, etc

Can I trade places with you🙄

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Well, you could pay out of pocket. Actually, we had patients whose upper lids were covered by insurance pay out of pocket to have the lower lids done at the same time. (Insurance rarely covers lower lids.)

If I decide I have the discretionary money to get my eyes done, believe me, I will.

Nothing, and don’t think I would - although if eyelids were impeding vision I probably would fix that.

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Trouble I have is I will do things if medically necessary, but I worry about spending big bucks to get something unnecessary done, and then having something go wrong. If/when it could be said it’s medically necessary to get my eyes done, for example, I think I’d be fine with it. But I tend to have weird reactions to things, so I don’t want to take risks just because of vanity.

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I’m in the no elective procedures camp. I had an old boss whose mom died on the table during a very common elective cosmetic procedure and a friend who ended up in the ICU after a severe botox reaction. Not worth it to me. I’d rather spend the time and energy working out and eating right. What’s inside is more important to me than the exterior anyway.

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In the past, I have done both Botox (brow and crow’s feet) and Juvederm to fill out my cheeks. I am pretty thin, and just don’t have a lot of volume in my face. However, I seem to metabolize that Juvederm more quickly than I would like, so I stopped doing it because it is not cheap. I carried on with the Botox for awhile, but started getting more lifted on one side of my forehead than the other. Idk if that is because one of my upper eyelids is more droopy than the other or not? The side with the droopier upper eyelid (they are both droopy, btw) just didn’t lift as high. I knew I wanted to consider blepharoplasty eventually, so quit doing Botox. I haven’t had anything done since May of 2021.

I have a consultation appointment with an occuloplastic surgeon on February 2nd. I don’t think my vision is impeded even on the droopier side, but I am not sure. Honestly, if I were evenly droopy on both sides, it might not bug me so much. I feel like I probably also need the lowers done as well. The opposite eye from the droopy upper lid is worse. So I am asymmetrical in two ways. One upper is droopier than the other and other lower is worse/more crinkly/bigger bag. Hope I am making sense. I think the lower eye procedure is more invasive than the upper, but I sort of figure if I decide to pursue it, I might as well go for it. We’ll see what she has to say. This surgeon also sometimes does some laser stuff in conjunction with the upper and lower lids, I think. Honestly, the laser stuff is more intimidating to me than the knife. I have super sensitive skin - maybe that is irrelevant. The other thing I worry about (IF I do it) is having to sleep on my back after the procedure. I NEVER sleep on my back. I might have to stay awake for a week!

My mom had her eyes done (covered by insurance) when she was five years younger than I am now. Definitely hereditary.

I have one close friend who has consistently done Botox, fillers, and laser for YEARS. She has also had breast augmentation (twice). She is beautiful, but there is a, “fake,” aspect to her. She spends a LOT of time on her physical appearance. It takes her two hours to get ready if she does NOT do her hair. I have another friend who had a facelift this past summer at age 72, but I have not seen her IRL as she lives in a different state.

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I am surprised at all the young women doing Botox etc. My D has never not worn sunscreen because she has 3 relatives with melanoma. I told her she will never wrinkle LOL. My mom made me wear sunscreen even in the 70s when hardly anyone was doing that and I think that has helped me. (Plus some genetics). I have friends my age with all sorts of crows feet and crepey bits but DH says I don’t have any of that (yet).

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I started Botox for my heavy lids to be lifted and I had a deep ‘ll’ inbetween my brows, can’t really tell in the before picture. I’m wearing makeup in both pics. I used to look sort of angry.

Went to see 3 surgeons about blepharoplasty and all 3 said I needed an eyebrow lift and I wasn’t prepared for that. Then I found out Botox can do it.

I started in 2017. Here is my before and after pics back then. I was 57, I think



(sorry, hair is wet in before pic”. I love it and get it done every 3 months.

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You have pretty eyes. I do like the after picture. It gives you a bit of lift.

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Thanks I just love it!

I think it looks fantastic! Are your eyebrows tattood?

I had botox in my jaw for TMJ pain once.

I get pedicures, manicures, and massages regularly. I’ve had dry needling done for pain.

I too don’t live in an area where tons of cosmetic work is the norm.

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A small correction. The device was not a laser. It is called IPL - intense pulsed light. This is the procedure I had that took care of my burst capillary and wiped out the dark spots as well:

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No, they’ve always been thick. But now I have to use a little powder.

Did it help?

Possibly they are doing it and just not telling, but I sort of doubt it. My social circle is pretty chill about appearance-- grey hair, no makeup etc.

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Yes, the botox did help.

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My H had his eyelids improved somehow so they wouldn’t affect his peripheral vision so muCh. Insurance covered it. My PT gets Botox injections for her migraines and says they help.

Seems like the more common or advertised stuff to conceal apparent age for men includes attempts to have hair where typical male pattern baldness occurs, or coloring white/gray hair.

But then if your social groups are around sports with age divisions, everyone knows approximately how old everyone else is anyway.