Facelifts, fillers, Botox, etc

This might be the perfect thread to ask. I have two “bumps” over my top eyelids - apparently, something common when your cholesterol goes high. My cholesterol is under control now, but these bumps are rather irritating to see (no problem otherwise). Any ideas if these can be removed cosmetically? What would be the safest option?

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You really need to ask a dermatologist, then they can provide you the answer or send you to someone who can.

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If it is what I think you are describing, a
dermo is the best person to evaluate and decide if they can remove or refer to another specialist with it being near your eyes.

My mom had two small whiteish bumps and it took less than a minute for the dermo to get rid of both - she was referred by dermo #1 since it was on the eye lid. It was a non issue and she was a bit frustrated she had put it off.

My sister just told that she is going to do a half face lift in Feb. it’s going to be around 25k. I am going to see how it goes for her before I make a decision.

Wow, that’s expensive. A mini lift costs around $6-$8k in the Midwest. That would be just the jawline, no neck or anything above the nose. Are you sure she is not doing more?

Neck and lower face lift.

Are those bumps skintags? If so, a dermatologist can remove them.

I have this too - as to my mom and siblings. My sis had hers fixed. I am thinking I might one day. I go thru bouts where I feel so tired when driving home and then I lift my eyebrow up (which lift my eye lid up) and feel completely different! (But I would not do an eyebrow lift bc I would be afraid I would look surprised all the time - haha.)

I don’t feel any pressure to look better or younger, but I would like my skin to look better/healthier (which I guess means younger?? :laughing:)

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Long time back, my mom had her upper lids done for vision issues and chose to have her lowers done too. I’ll need my uppers done - they’re so droopy that when I’m really tired, it looks like just skin and no eyes. But my ophthalmologist says not to do my lids until I have my cataracts done. I suspect that will finally be this year. I’ll think about my lower lids; the area under my eyes is not attractive.

Author Olivia Goldsmith died from a chin tuck. https://people.com/celebrity/wives-author-olivia-goldsmith-dies/

A woman here in my neck of the woods tragically died after a “simple” cosmetic procedure. This article says there were 19 deaths per 100,000 liposuction procedures, and most are due to lidocaine, which is also used in other plastic surgeries.

https://www.aorn.org/outpatient-surgery/article/2011-October-death-alone-after-liposuction-results-in-1-8-million-award

ShawWife and I travel a ton (especially me) and hence run into people in lots of places. In our social milieu in New England, a limited number of women seem to have work done. Most do not (some eyelifts and chins), though there is definitely some pressure for thinness. The work is not always good – faces get tightened and botoxed and the person looks a bit demonic or emotionless-- but some is hard to detect (you just think, “she looks great for her age”). A fair degree of work in Southern California. Not so much (or really careful) in Northern California. I’d guess it is happening in NY, but we see it less as our crowd in NY contains a lot of artists who are less likely to be able to afford plastic surgery. In Florida (especially Miami), I think the only women who don’t have work done and stay ridiculously thin are the ones who are the breadwinners in their families. Otherwise, they likely will be replaced by a younger model. (Model replacement happens even in New England. About 10 years ago, my wife observed that in our social milieu, the husband at a certain age (in the 50s) seemed to either buy a sports car or have an affair and leave his wife. There were a surprising number of the latter. So, ShawWife, semi-jokingly encouraged me to buy a sports car).

In South America, plastic surgery is de rigeur, even at younger ages. From what I gather, a fifty year old woman has already had a number of procedures. I don’t think we would know what a lot of these women would look like without the surgeries.

ShawWife did the droopy eyelid thing because they were was getting in the way of her work. She’s really an aged hippy at one level, so plastic surgery seems alien to her. However, she has observed that a) women in their 50s generally become invisible; and b) in the art world, people pay a lot of attention to image and hence it would make sense for her to look younger. I don’t think she has it in her core to do serious plastic surgery.

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It feels like almost everyone I know has had Botox. I’m 53. I have not - one friend had a facial paralysis reaction that lasted several weeks and my aunt had a thing where her eyebrow was an inch higher than the other. I am wimpy and not interested. I have wrinkles but still think I’m pretty cute. I’m very good about skin care and vitamins. I have deep wrinkles on my forehead, so I got bangs. I have friends that are getting Botox…it always looks good the first time and then not so much. I am all for feeling good but at some point, I’ve got to embrace aging so I might as well just start now.

@shawbridge - agree about the invisibility factor but at the end of the day I don’t think Botox fools anyone into thinking we are 35 instead of 55. There’s a great skit with Amy Schumer, Tina Fey, where they are celebrating Julia Louis-Drefus’s expiration date, she’s no longer considered sexy because she’s 50. It’s very funny!

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LOL. We have a friend who refers to her husband’s Tesla as “the mistress”.

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I’d love to get the eye lift thing done. My mom had it as soon as she was on Medicare and got her cataracts done. I think it runs in the family (the droopy eye interfering with sight), but I have almost 15 years left before Medicare will cover it.
Reading the rest of these posts about younger models and expiration dates has me worried though. I am just over 50, but my husband is over a decade younger than I am. Yikes. It hasn’t been a problem (much) until now, but maybe I’ll look into some of this!

My H is significantly older than me and has shown no interest or energy in getting a new car nor a GF.

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That you know of. :wink:

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@sursumcorda, I believe medical insurance will cover if such a surgery if the eyelids begin to block the vision. This was true in ShawWife’s case. Of course, this may not be true of all private insurers.

@HImom, I did get myself a really nice car. I am well-known in my field and used to do a number of speaking engagements and opportunities for affairs (or at least one night stands) definitely presented themselves, often with considerably younger women. In addition to being happy in my marriage (I have an over-the-top wonderful partner), I was always struck by how complicated life would be and I wondered how people manage an affair on top of life. My life (especially pre-pandemic) was already so complicated that I can’t imagine adding more to it.

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I’m hoping not to have any invasive facial procedures, ever. Botox is tempting for my forehead wrinkles but it’s temporary, so I hesitate to get “addicted” to it. Many more women in their 20’s are starting to do Botox, supposedly as a preventative to future wrinkles. That is concerning because I do believe in aging as gracefully as possible, and this sends the message from a young age that wrinkles are a negative. A better message (and one I have drilled into my daughters’ heads from an early age) is to stay out of the sun and to use spf when in the sun.

I did just have a facial on vacation that involved a “micro-current” procedure, where they essentially run these metal balls over your face that give out small micro-currents (you can feel them, but they don’t hurt). It’s supposed to firm things up. I loved the results and feel like my face still looks great 4 weeks later, so I do plan to seek that out here in my hometown and have it done again.

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One has to have the interest in having an affair. Yes, back when H was working and traveling and I was flying to conferences without H we both had opportunities to potentially have affairs or one night stands. Fortunately neither of us had the interest or energy.

I prefer investing in our relationship to cosmetic procedures where results definitely vary.

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I asked the plastic surgeon who does my Botox if I should get a facelift. He said to me, “why? Where would you want me to do the lift?” I was happy to know that I didn’t need it because mentally i am not sure if i really want a face lift. He asked me if I do anything to my face besides Botox. I told him that I used red light on my face to tighten my face. He wanted to know which brand.
I am Asian and we have naturally tighter skin, and it helps to do some regular maintenance. I guess it’s a bit of natural and nurture.

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