<p>To HYPMS, I heard that factors in admission decisions are as follows:</p>
<p>if you are an engineering/science student, then
GPA - 30%
SAT - 20%
SAT II - 20%
AP - 10%
others - 20% </p>
<p>How do you think it is?</p>
<p>well NO. your not taking into acount ecs and essays which surely comprise more than 20% (even for an engineering student). Granted I'm no expert, but I would say its around 30% GPA, 20 % SAT 1, 10 % SAT II, 40% others (including essays, APs (which should be very small), and ecs.)</p>
<p>thank you n1bigdude
yours is
GPA - 30%
SAT - 20%
SAT II - 10%
others - 40%</p>
<p>Essays and EC's and other personal qualities that make a student appear preferable to other applicants necessarily play a significant role in admission to those colleges. Why? Because they get a huge number of applicants whose GPA's and test scores are all in the same range and they can only accept one out every 7 or 8 of those applicants.</p>
<p>There are many applicancts with identical stats.....therefore one begins to split hairs or use the random chance.....it is the best way that adcoms have. IT could boil down to the state you live in or the instrument you play or any other need the "class" they are forming needs.</p>
<p>What about at a C?</p>
<p>i hate when people say "similar range." Are you saying a 1450-1550, rank of 10-1 out of 700, and 730-800 sat ii's is a "similar range", cuz that simply is not the case. and while harvard may reject many valedictorians, and reject many 1600's, how many valedictorians + 1600 + 800 Sat II's + 5's on AP + etc., get rejected from all top 4 or 5 schools?</p>
<p>the answer: not very many, unless they are other outstandingly bad circumstances (no EC's at all, bad essays, etc.)</p>
<p>arent SATIIs taken into account AFTER you get into college?</p>
<p>Gandhiji: absolutely not.</p>
<p>50% grades
25% Scores
25% Stuff -- extracurriculars, sports, food banks, . . .</p>
<p>Use this formula and you perceive admissions in a manner most colleges see it.</p>
<p>Maybe at some of the larger, numbers-driven schools, but I seriously doubt that at the top Ivy-caliber schools, "numbers" make up 75% of admissions decision (or even any "precentage" remotely close to that). It's impossible to put admissions factors into percentages unless the schools uses such a system such as the point system that I think Michigan State uses (not sure if that's the right college - it was the one in the Supreme Court AA case).</p>
<p>How much does a dip in GPA sophmore year affect your chances.. for example</p>
<p>Frosh: 4.0
Soph:3.1
Jr: 4.0
Sr. 4.0 </p>
<p>Even with a counselor explaining in their rec for the dip would that make a difference or would you just be f'd izzle'd?</p>
<p>"would you just be f'd izzle'd?"</p>
<p>Umm you have to learn how to speak and write english before you even think about applying to good schools.</p>
<p>i think some areas can supercede others and there isn't a definite model. For example, you could have the highest gpa in all the land, or you could have ended an unknown slave trade or freed tibet.</p>
<p>"Umm you have to learn how to speak and write english before you even think about applying to good schools."</p>
<p>Sir, please understand that the word "umm" is not a real word. What the hell are you thinking typing that up. You should go to a technical college.</p>
<p>Academic factors (70%):</p>
<p>1) Secondary school record 30%
2) Standard test scores 25%
3) Recommendations 10%
4) essay 5%</p>
<p>Nonacademic factors (30%):
1) Character/talent ability/personal qualities 15% (how estimating ?)
2) Intervew 5%
3) ECs 5%
4) others 5%</p>
<p>I hope you are right, LF61, because my ECs are incredibly lacking, and I will probably mess up the interviews.</p>
<p>what the effa???? i thought SATII were only placement tests...</p>
<p>Pardon my midwestern/ebonic/english word of, "f'dizzle'd". To inform you, jq722, the word would be comparable to, "screwed", or any other word with a similar connotation would work as well. Thank you for answering the question though.. Props to your flaming on an internet forum. Do you ocassionally beat around the bush with your superiority complex? I think so.</p>
<p>SAT II's are used for both placement as well as admissions. Since they show your level of mastery in an area, colleges can use them to compare applicants without having to worry about variation between schools.</p>