failing calculus 1. need help weighing my options.

<p>okay so i was going to apply this month to UCLA under biz econ. my backup school is UCSB under the econ+accounting major. i had a 4.0, doing TAP, finished microecon, macroecon, and accounting 1 with A's. things were going swimmingly until this semester. i am taking 18 units and currently taking calculus 1 and failing it. i knew calc was going to be hard but not this hard. i got a D on the first test, B on the second test, and a very low F on my third test. this last test pulls my grade down to an F. this class is seriously kicking my ass. maybe its cuz i never went further than basic algebra in high school. the drop date is in a week and a half and i think i will drop it. </p>

<p>of course, if i drop calc 1 i will have 0% chance of getting into UCLA. unless i can pull off a miracle and get 95-100% on the 2 remaining chapter exams and the final, allowing me to finish with a low B, which right now sounds harder than winning a gold medal in the olympics. i also risk getting an C, D, or not improving at all and getting an F if i stay in the class, which is not a good thing tbqh.</p>

<p>so if i drop this class, which seems to be a way safer decision, i will have to drop UCLA off my list and head to UCSB. I signed a TAG to UCSB and got the standard "good job signing the TAG, we look forward to receiving your application" notice. but i'm not certain how UCSB will take this either. UCSB's assist page for the Econ+Acctg major says that i must complete "one microecon class, one macroecon class, and either |one statistics class and one calculus class| or |two calculus classes|." all are done except calculus. how will UCSB react if I drop calculus 1 now and take it the spring immediately before transfer?</p>

<p>on an another note, will UCLA accept a winter calculus class for Fall 12 transfers? Seems a bit iffy cuz winter classes end early Feb and i think the spring updates are around the same time.</p>

<p>how low of an F are you. If their homework grade + quiz and test remaining i would suggest you go to the student center if your school has one and work on it with a tutor. I think the most important thing you learn though would be to review your derivative section + the end of chapter 4 i assume which should be anti derivative since i think your going to do integral now and 3d graphing.</p>

<p>sorry but the only way is that u need to pull up ur 2 remaining test around 95%-100%.
Of course this is not impossible, just study and work hard for it. STUDY HARD BRO. TALK TO UR PROFESSOR.</p>

<p>I’m at a ~56% right now. i’ve always considered myself a good student – but apparently not a good enough student to do well in calculus. for every exam i study heavily for a week straight, i do the problems, and i HAVE been going to college math tutoring center but i guess that wasn’t enough. </p>

<p>also, the next exam is in about 10 days. if i were to attempt at getting 100% on this exam i won’t be sleeping for 10 days due to studying and anxiety at the thought of not improving and getting an F. hmmm…</p>

<p>edit: I am OP</p>

<p>sorry to hear that, but that is the only way. just think of a way to motivate urself. You gotta work harder, there is no other option. Unless you want to go some where else other than UCLA. Calculus is not that hard if u practice problems by problems. btw that is me, maybe it’s different for you. Talk with ur instructor about this problem, ask him to give u more practice problems or review for the test. Do them over and over until u know them fluently.</p>

<p>Drop it poserbruin :slight_smile: It’s not worth pulling an all-nighter for the next 10 days lol. Drop it, then retake during the winter. It will be fine, as long as you use your free time studying ahead, since you already know more than half of the material it will be “quite” easier the second time. I’m pretty sure you are aware of the fact that winter class are 3x faster than a normal one and it can be a killer, so I think you have to study now if you still want a spot at UCLA’s BizEcon ;)</p>

<p>Here’s some resources that may help
[Pauls</a> Online Notes : Calculus I](<a href=“http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/CalcI.aspx]Pauls”>http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/CalcI.aspx) I love this one, but sometimes it might be a little bit hard due to the complexity of the problem
[Khan</a> Academy](<a href=“http://www.khanacademy.org/]Khan”>http://www.khanacademy.org/) This one is God. Period. Dumb down the problem for non-math guys :slight_smile: but you can still understand 100% of Calc1 just using Khan Acad.</p>

<p>For your other question, you will be fine as long as you can finish Calc1 & 2 and indicated that on your UC App by listing them as planned courses for winter and spring respectively. Ad com will look down on you, but you can definitely compensate it with your 4.0.</p>

<p>iunno i think it’s how you approach calculus. I think if you approach it as you need to know this to do that it’s alot harder than, just understanding the concpet/theory of it than doing it. Since i think when you approach it and do it. If the problem change you end up having trouble doing it. Iunno though, see if it possible to do well on next one, worst comes to worst can you drop and retake it in the spring? or is this the only math class and you need it for tag?</p>

<p>I would drop it while you still can! UCLA won’t take you for Biz Econ if you don’t have 4.0 Average biz econ admit was 3.94 last yr. I’d just go to other UC’s. They all require calculus though!</p>

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This is an overstatement, but it is *a little bit" true for BizEcon, lol. Keep that 4.0!
I have a friend who got into Haas last year with a 3.81, but I have never heard of anyone got into BizEcon with < 3.8. Maybe there are some in this forum, but I dunno :)</p>

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This.</p>

<p>Drop it. Retake next semester. Good luck!</p>

<p>why the name change poser?</p>

<p>don’t be ashamed, we can’t win em all. just learn your mistakes this time and redo it correctly next time. there are other people in similar shoes as you (myself included), having to drop key classes the major semester before acceptances roll out.</p>

<p>just chalk it up and learn from the experience, best thing you can do.</p>

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<p>some community colleges don’t offer calculus 1 for winter. If your ccc one of those, then u need to finish them some how by spring. I say finish both 1 and 2? or drop for ur 4.0 Gpa.</p>

<p>I dont understand why you can’t take it in the spring? Do they not allow you to take it then?</p>

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They do however with such an impacted major like BizEcon and BizAdmin, it’s always better if the prerequisites are completed before the spring. </p>

<p>Even if you drop and take Calculus I in the spring, you’ll still have to take Calculus II. I think Ferrari mentioned this and unless you take both courses concurrently during the spring, your application will be deemed ineligible.</p>

<p>does your school offer an honors calc 1 and 2 combined? is it possible to see if you can take both classes together? it going to be rough, but if you have to do it you gotta do it.</p>

<p>^ he cant handle calculus 1, how can he handles both together? this is like stacking pressure.</p>

<p>I am almost certain Calculus I is a prerequisite for Calculus II so he would not be allowed to register for both in the same quarter. If he is having this much trouble with Calculus I, an honors Calculus I+II course would absolutely crush him.</p>

<p>The OP mentioned that he did not have a strong HS background in Algebra and the hardest part of many Calculus problems is not the Calculus but the Algebraic manipulations needed to put the problem in a form in which techniques from Calculus can be applied. Many students know the Chain Rule and the Product rule but lack the Algebra skills to apply them properly.</p>

<p>He did not say what text he is using but many of the UCs and CSUs use “Calculus, Early Transcesdentals” by James Stewart for a three semester Calculus sequence for their Math, Physical Science and Engineering majors. Both my sons are physical science majors and have used or are using this text. In working out examples the author often leaves out much of the Algebraic manipulation which may be obvious to him but may not be to a college student taking their first Calculus class. The OP should look for resources that have more detailed explanations and he should also try to strengthen his Algebra and Trigonometry skills if he is using this text which is very challeging for Business and Economics majors.</p>

<p>OMG Poser i am in the exact same situation. scared as helll!!! except i have a C :frowning: last day to drop for me is Friday i believe</p>

<p>I hadn’t taken a math class in eight years and was beyond scared when I found out I needed both Calc I/II for my major, but I did it and pulled it off with an A- in both, check out a book called The Humongous Book of Calculus Problems he breaks everything down, I did problems in that book over and over until I mastered most of the concepts and went to every class for the lectures, profs are pretty good at letting you know what types of problems will be on the test and you study from there.
I think you should drop it and retake it, the second time around will be much easier, good luck!</p>

<p><<< again, i am OP</p>

<p>thanks guys. i actually wasn’t failing but i had a low C. regardless, at this point its would be a huge stretch for me to turn my grade around. i’ve given some thought to this and decided that i will drop this class and retake it in the spring.</p>