<p>how necessary is it that a freshman girl have a fake id? should i wait til i get to philly to get one, or get one in my home city?</p>
<p>Not that I'm saying anything, but a bird in hand is better than two in the bush.</p>
<p>Be careful with it. A Penn student I know was arrested in NJ for possession of a fake ID, had a $5K legal bill and is serving an onorous probation before the thing will be off his record. It's a felony and since 9/11 is taken seriously in some places (not all).</p>
<p>Get one. Ignore the post above me...not that it's bad advice, because it's wise to consider it, but listen to the students, not the parent. I am a girl and just finished my freshman year, and I used it 2-3 times a week. Granted, I'm on the...more social side. But if you plan to have a decent social life you need one. You'll use it for bars, buying alcohol, and the occasional registered party. Get a good one in your city if you can, but if not you can get a $40 one here. It won't work many places outside of West Philly, but it'll be fine as a girl freshman year.</p>
<p>^I thought the guys who were selling those got busted and/or stopped selling them. All you really need is a $40 fake. A place that accepts fakes will take some of the crappiest fakes, but generally you can get into most places with a $40 fake. Some of the places that are really strict about fakes won't accept some that look almost real. I didn't have a fake, but really wanted one for my freshman year. I would have probably used it once a week or once every other week. It gets expensive going downtown as a guy because you have to buy your own drinks, and any drinks you might have to buy for a possible date.</p>
<p>adf8- I happen to be the parent of a student, so you might be wise to listen to me. Don't use that ID in New Jersey or you, too, can have your very own probation for a criminal offense and a huge legal bill. Also, do not use it at Penn State, if you should happen to go visit someone.<br>
I'm not an idiot. I had a fake ID of my own (back when we typed them up on stolen license stock). Everyone in my kid's Penn dorm displayed their IDs with pride on move-in day freshman year. I had no idea the penalties were so stiff if you get caught in the wrong town. They are fine around Penn- just don't venture far with it.</p>
<p>Ehh, some of them might have gotten busted, but when there's a demand a supply usually develops. I'm sure someone is still making the $40 licenses. Also, side note for the collegegal- there are bars around campus, you don't just have to go downtown to use it.
MomofWildChild is right- if you have a bad fake, don't try to use it unless you're semi-familiar with the place/how strict it is. But I'm pretty sure bouncers in Pennsylvania don't get paid for turning people in because they rarely take IDs.</p>
<p>Disregard MoWC at your own peril. I, for one, would heed her advice -- consider her moniker: clearly she knows whereof she speaks!</p>