Fall Course Helperino Freshman year

@Suffer Perhaps then I’ll just switch out neuroscience with an economics class.

@XAtlas I actually think Neuro is easier than Econ(at least from what I’ve heard with Buckles). You get like 8 free points of extra credit added onto your final grade(86 becomes 94) and the tests aren’t very tough from first hand experience.

Also I highly recommend placing out of gen chem and into orgo especially if you were smart enough to take AP Chem sophomore year. I did it last year, and the class was really good.

@Suffer : A B/B+ average (typically courses awarding 30-35% A grades come out between 3.0-3.3 unless there are abnormal amounts of grades below C, as in more than 20%) for Vandy general chemistry makes sense. The tests clearly attempt to mainly challenge the folks in the middle who probably don’t have AP credit (or exposure to AP/IB chem for that matter). They don’t appear to be attempting to really make those with experience run for their money. Vanderbilt like other selective privates with a decent STEM population may have upwards to 20-30% of students who got 4/5 on AP chem and more who got a 3 or at least took it (maybe didn’t pass or didn’t take the exam). The problem solving section on most of the tests also stress math (as in less descriptive/conceptually focused questions in the free response…almost all calculation/plug-and-chug based…just on the tricky side), and like most student bodies at these schools, Vandy’s are really solid at the math needed to do gen. chem on average.

On those types of exams, the 4s and 5s are VERY likely to make an A-/A and of course some of them will slip up adjusting to college, but those folks’ A’s will be replaced by others who just work hard to close the gap. Gen. chem instructors at many other schools at least put a couple of problems on there to surprise or challenge the more experienced students so you’ll probably see more of the 4/5s getting B grades. To no surprise, those course averages end up being more C+/B- or B-/B like with(assumes like sub 70-75 exam averages) or without a curve (exam averages are likely consistently held at 75 or slightly lower, and schools with integrated labs let the lab lift the overall course distribution to about a B- or B). I would guess Vandy separates the lab as its own credit and that is one reason it works differently (as in the test writers are not as rough).

Either way, it is other STEM courses there that I would worry about as a frosh or sophomore. I can definitely see physics and math courses there having the more traditional C+/B- or B-/B distribution seen at “normal” grading schools (as in, not most of Vandy’s medium sized peers).

@XAtlas : That neuro class is very “survey” like from the tests I have and have seen. The 94.5 may actually be doable even for a freshman finding their footing. May be a decent starter STEM course.

@XAtlas For a STEM class intro to neuroscience is easy. Probably slightly harder than gen psych and the introductory econ courses, but still not that bad. Regardless of what you pick your schedule will be doable.

@Suffer @Vandy93 @bernie12 Thank you for all your help and I will be replacing the two econ classes for psych and neuro.

And by intro to neurscience you mean Neuroscience 2201 right?

Yes

Thanks for all the insight on this thread - I was taking advanced conversational french as my one liberal arts course, since I couldn’t do gen chem with my Blair schedule. Now I’ve switched to neuro 2201 and am thinking I might double major in that instead so that I can still do the biology stuff I want to do :slight_smile: Thanks fam.