Fall Courses

<p>I've been stressing out over my fall class schedule lately and would love some input. </p>

<p>Firstly, I have the required writing seminar.</p>

<p>I've taken three years of high school spanish (but not since junior year) and have not yet taken the placement test. I really don't enjoy spanish and wanted to take Chinese in it's place but I would prefer to take no language at all. I think I'll cram and try to place out of the language requirement but I really doubt I can pass out of it entirely. Even if I pass out of one year of it, I would much rather take two years of chinese then another year of spanish. </p>

<p>Math: One of my favorite subjects, I think I plan on MAT 203 right now. 215 appeals to me as well but I think 203 is a better fit seeing as I don't think I will major in math (though a possibility). </p>

<p>In the last spot I am debating between ECO 100 and PSY 101. I always thought I would major in econ but recently decided that it would be more of a minor rather than a major for me. I would really like to ECO 100 but I've never taken psychology and would really like to take 101 as well. I could definitely see myself majoring in psychology and I would like to get on track by taking 101 my freshman year if it interests me. </p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Is there a reason you want to take 203 instead of 201? It's always good to challenge yourself, but it seems sort of pointless if you don't plan to major in a science. Have you considered COS 126? It would fulfill your QR and would probably be more useful than MVC.</p>

<p>I really enjoyed BC Calculus and would like to continue. Though COS 126 sounds interesting, I think I would enjoy MVC more. On the 203 versus 201...I don't really know, I should probably rethink it. I really enjoy math and I'm naturally pretty good at it (though no olympiad)...hmmm</p>

<p>Well if you think you're talented and you don't see yourself majoring in a science, you might try 215. It's a lot of work, but it's a great course. And if you sign up for 203, you can always drop down into 201 if it gets too tough.</p>

<p>ECO 100 is being taught by Farber in the fall, who is known to be kind of a terrible professor (definitely not as good as Rosen) - I would recommend you take PSY 101 and wait until later to take ECO 100. Just so you know there isn't a real econ minor...there's a finance certificate that you have to apply for (which definitely requires ECO 100, 101, 310, etc.), though you can take as many econ classes as you want.</p>

<p>I would seriously consider COS 126, at least at some point. It's a great class.</p>

<p>I agree with boysenberry about the PSY recommendation. Life's too short to take a poorly-taught huge intro econ class.</p>

<p>Hmm you can take ECO 101 first if you wish. My only hesitation is that if you indeed do decide to major in econ, you will be making life much, much easier for yourself by getting the two intro's done freshman year. I don't really see a problem with taking 203 over 201...any additional benefit that a science major would get out of it, an econ major would too. Its not like science majors need to prove simple mathematical theorems either. Anyways, I was in your position, and I took 203 with no problems. Either way, both psych and econ involve plenty of stats, so perhaps that would be a good consideration at some point. PSY 101 is taught year round, and im pretty sure its always taught by Oppenheimer, so no need to rush to take it...Psych has pretty lax requirements as a major.</p>

<p>Econ and psych require different stats courses so I would wait until deciding which to major in before taking that. You can definitely take ECO 101 first but both ECO 100 and 101 are also offered year-round, so even if you decide to major in econ sophomore year, you'll still have enough time to take the pre-reqs (they are ECO 100, 101, 202, MAT 103...but of course you would place out of the math req, and if you got a 5 on the statistics AP you can also place out of 202). I would recommend taking both PSY 101 and an econ class during freshman year so you can make an educated decision towards your major.</p>

<p>Thanks for the input. I'll think a little bit more about MAT 201, 203, 215 and COS 126. </p>

<p>Regarding ECO 100/101 and PSY 101, I'll try one from each concentration freshman year so I can get a feel for the departments. </p>

<p>Also, I have a 5 on AP stats so if I go for the economics major, I already have one class out of the way.</p>

<p>Thanks for the input.</p>

<p>hold on a sec. the prof of ECO 100 is 'notoriously' bad? is the entire 100+ person class taught by one teacher? so in that case, i should probably take ECO 101 in the fall, even though i hate doing stuff out of order haha...hm.</p>

<p>ECO 100 and ECO 101 aren't supposed to be taken in any order, so the class number assignment is fairly random. I took ECO 100 my freshman spring semester and I had a great time, and it wasn't much work. So if the new guy who's teaching it isn't that good, then do ECO 101 first.</p>

<p>You will find people that say "ooh do micro first because of X" or "ooh do macro first because of Y". I did macro my first semester since I thought getting the big picture - and national income accounting out of the way (boring!) - was the simplest path to take. But other people recommend to focus on the micro firts and then "zoom out."</p>

<p>Do MAT 203 if you can handle it. Higher number of math = better unless you can't handle it (then you're in for a rough ride and should drop down!)</p>

<p>I'd take Spanish at Princeton. The classes aren't the most exciting, but (for you) it's the simplest way to fulfill your language requirement, and you'll be grateful later when you have more elective slots. You're not going to be the king of campus freshman year anyway, and most freshman are somewhat clueless, so better to write off what you can at the beginning when everything is still new and you're given the benefit of the doubt. Even if you don't study for the spanish test with your experience it sounds like you'll place into 105 or 108, so will only have 1 or 2 semesters that you need.</p>

<p>Check to make sure Oppenheimer is the professor for PSY 101. He's both intelligent and dynamic, and makes going to the lectures and paying attention incredibly interesting. PSY 101 is also a good overview course for Psychology. The last two years, Oppenheimer has only taught PSY 101 during the fall semester.</p>

<p>Thanks for the input again. </p>

<p>I'll study for the Spanish placement exam and see how I do. I really don't plan on taking the class though unless I pass out of a year of Spanish. After reviewing a little it reminded me how much I dislike taking it.</p>

<p>Princeton has a great Chinese program (it's so popular that they try to discourage people to keep taking it after 101) but you have to really like it because it is a lot of work. If you do a year of Chinese at princeton you can go to Princeton-in-Beijing in the summer and do a whole year's worth of work in 8 weeks, so that effectively finishes your language requirement. But again, you have to be really passionate about it to get through 8 weeks of 5 hours of chinese a day.</p>

<p>There is really no order for ECO 100/101. And yes, the entire lecture of about 300 students are taught by one professor, but you are broken down into precepts with grad students once a week.</p>

<p>I think I'm going to try and switch to the engineering school and into the ORFE department. From my understanding it couples my interest of business and math together to form a really interesting department.</p>