<p>I got my fee results, and I'm not sure if I passed or not. I got this:
Results:
Result Description
CI-H or CI-HW You may take any CI-H or CI-HW subject during your first year at MIT</p>
<p>This is passing, right?</p>
<p>congrats you passed</p>
<p>Yipee I passed, but by the comments you wouldn't think I passed. They basically said my essays were confusing and my theses were unclear. Eh, I'll take a CI-H and go to the writing center if I have problems with my propositions or structures.</p>
<p>Haha, this is what I said in my blog regarding FEE results:</p>
<p>"Here's what happened: my results said that I "may take any CI-H or CI-HW subject during your first year at MIT," which was fine with me, because I had no idea what the difference was between CI-H and CI-HW. Still don't, in fact. So I just filled out the lottery based on the subjects I was interested in and didn't take CI-designation into account at all. Then I realized that some of my choices (including my first choice) weren't Communication Intensive at all. I was nervous that I messed up (maybe I was required to take a CI class?) until I realized that the course catalog we received was made especially for freshmen- so if all freshmen were required to take a CI class first semester, why would non-CI classes be included in the booklet? Exactly.</p>
<p>So, assuming you've followed me so far, here's what I've figured out. You're required to take 4 CI classes before you graduate. This translates to roughly one per year. So if I take a regular HASS-D first semester, I can still take a CI class second semester. (You are required to take one CI class your freshman year, and CommReq agrees with me. Yes! I feel like I've finally figured something out!) Apparently, I'll be ineligible for sophomore standing for the spring semester, but...hey, I have no idea what I'm doing anyway. That's why they give me an advisor and let you add and drop classes later in the term and all that..."</p>
<p>But yeah, on top of all that, I also had no idea if I passed at first. It really is confusing.</p>
<p>It all makes sense now, so have faith. It's just too bad that it doesn't make sense right when you want it to. =)</p>
<p>Ahh... I just looked at my catalog, and my top two choices (Something to do with Architecture, and Music Composition) aren't designated at CI-H. Most of the other HASS-D's are CI-H. </p>
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...I realized that the course catalog we received was made especially for freshmen- so if all freshmen were required to take a CI class first semester, why would non-CI classes be included in the booklet? Exactly.
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<p>Laura, does this statement mean that your first-choice HASS-D that was not designated as CI-H originally ended up filling the communication requirement?</p>
<p>Yay I passed.... But the comments were harsh! I approve of criticism though... it beats my english teacher's "oh, this is good" comments. Still, it's surprising if you're not used to it!</p>
<p>I'm in the middle of my FEE, and apparently the results won't come back in time for the HASS-D lottery. Should I just sign up for CI-H classes?</p>
<p>(sorry this is slightly off topic)</p>
<p>Yupp, enter the lottery because if you don't pass, you can always add a CI-HW (not that big of a selection) later, but in the likely event that you pass, you don't want to take a class that might not be of interest to you because you didn't enter the lottery.</p>
<p>Well the thing that I wasn't really capable of understanding at the time is this:</p>
<p>You HAVE to take a CI your freshman year, period. No matter what you do with the FEE. But it doesn't matter which semester you take it in.* A CI-H is just a humanities class with the CI distinction, and CI-HW is a writing class with the CI distinction. If you fail the FEE, you must take a CI-HW (first semeser, I believe). If you pass, you can take a CI-H or a CI-HW. (Although, from what I've heard about HWs, you wouldn't want to.) Of course, by throwing the name of the course you're required to take if you fail into the description of how you actually passed, they confuse the hell out of everyone.</p>
<p>(*Unless you're an over-achiever who wants to get sophomore standing for the spring semester. Then you need to take a CI in the fall.)</p>
<p>I took a HASS-D first semester that was NOT a CI. (I was originally worried that this was a problem, becaue I wasn't sure if I was required to take a CI first semester.) Second semester I took a HASS-D that WAS a CI and thus fulfilled the frosh year CI requirement. (21F.716 and 21H.105, in case anyone's wondering. =P)</p>
<p>vu, the comment you quoted was just me realizing that a CI wasn't required first semester, so it didn't matter that I hadn't selected one in the HASS-D lottery.</p>
<p>And yeah, my comments said that I had a creative and engaging writing style but that I basically ramble too much. =)</p>
<p>Also, one last thing- I've never been to the writing center, but I was assigned a writing tutor through my CI last semester, and she was AMAZING. I went to a meeting with her expecting it to be this huge waste of my time, but she asked me like three questions and next thing I knew I had this whole new thesis and outline that made way more sense than the first one. I was totally blown away. Of course, I'm sure plenty of writing tutors are horrible as well, but mine rocked.</p>
<p>From what I hear, you don't <em>have</em> to take a CI-H your freshman year, although it is highly suggested. Supposedly, it's like the Freshman Swim Test.</p>
<p>Well, my understanding is that if you don't, some academic committee or department or another really gets on your case, academic probation style. Also, you can't be considered a sophomore, so the freshman credit limit still applies. I don't know any of the details. All I know is that I expressed the same thought, and was rather forcefully corrected. =)</p>
<p>I think the CAP just sends nasty emails to you, like they do if you don't finish the PE requirement until IAP of your senior year. (Ahem.)</p>
<p>But you really might as well take a CI class on P/NR, when you can just churn out papers the morning they're due and not even give it a second thought. ;)</p>
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I think the CAP just sends nasty emails to you, like they do if you don't finish the PE requirement until IAP of your senior year. (Ahem.)
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<p>Actually, CAP can put you on warning for not completing your CI-H requirement in a timely fashion. It has a special name - "Communications Warning", I think - but it's still warning.</p>
<p>Oh my god. If my English teachers gave critiques like they gave me for my essays, my writing might have actually improved in the past two years.</p>
<p>Instead, it seems, everyone's writing stayed stagnant every year...the grade you got on the first essay always seemed to be the same as the grade you got on the last essay...because teachers didn't take the time to tell you what you did wrong - just that you DID do something wrong (reflected in your grade).</p>
<p>But
CI-H or CI-HW You may take any CI-H or CI-HW subject during your first year at MIT so i'm happy.</p>
<p>I'm still taking mine, but I'm curious about what the average pass rate is. Does anyone know, generally at least, what is expected?</p>
<p>Class of 2006 -- 73% passed
Class of 2007 -- 74% passed
Class of 2008 -- 72% passed
Class of 2009 -- 58% passed</p>
<p>Sources [url=<a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V125/N41/41asetable.html%5Dhere%5B/url">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V125/N41/41asetable.html]here[/url</a>], [url=<a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N37/37standing.37n.html%5Dhere%5B/url">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V123/N37/37standing.37n.html]here[/url</a>], and [url=<a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V122/N34/34FEE.34n.html%5Dhere%5B/url">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V122/N34/34FEE.34n.html]here[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Three cheers for the '09s!</p>
<p>Man, what the hell did we do? Haha.</p>
<p>probably just more people being exempt because of getting a 5 on the english APs.. right? <em>in the midst of the first essay</em></p>
<p>125 more people took the test in 2004, so that must account for it, like Crash_Blair said. This might correlate to the fact that in the past couple of years the competition to get into college is more tough, making students take the AP's more seriously, accounting for the higher number of 5's. I see the passing rate being around the same number because these next couple of years are said to be the hardest years to get into college.</p>
<p>Maybe they changed their standards in 2009?</p>