<p>lol My stats alone should have got me in. I had all A's, 1910 SAT I and 780, 720 SAT II's. As I said before, verbal and writing were the only ones that lowered my SAT I score. I felt stupid that I didn't write about my struggling here with my sister w/o our parents. Also, I didn't talk about myself as being an immigrant in my essays cuz I had a lot of other stuffs to talk about. Perhaps, I might have gotten into Berkeley had I talked about it in my personal essays. But what's done is done. Anyways, I don't think they would randomly award points to all permanant residents assuming that they are new immigrants. They wouldn't know if you are a new immigrant unless you talk about it because I don't recall having to fill that information out in november application.</p>
<p>I don't talk about things that I have no knowledge in. I know he doesn't work. I know he get C's in eng while I get A's. I know he has pretty much all the regular classes. He is not living with a single parent. Now you tell me what got him in? Admissions are just random.</p>
<p>i'm guessin(from my school)
like 10-15 ucb and ucla (each)
probably 25+ for ucsd this year.
the rest of the UCs maybe like 10 each? maybe 2-3 for UCR and UCSC/UCM.</p>
<p>overall many ppl in my school go to UCs, and if not, it's CSUs. some go to privates too.</p>
<p>Just because you didn't put down that you are an immigrant doesn't justify your remark that he is 'lucky' for getting those points. It's in the rubric, he put down what got him the points, good for him. There's nothing lucky about getting points that they recognize and award.</p>
<p>And let's face it, UCSD admission is pretty straight forward. All points-based with a distinctive cutoff. Where he lacks in academics, he has to make up for in other areas or he would not have made the cutoff. UCSD admissions haven't been across the board this year at all.</p>
<p>Do you think they give points to immigrants who have been here more than four years? So far as I know, they only give points to studnets who have been here three years or less. At least that's what my counselor told me.</p>
<p>Do I think they give points to immigrants who've been here for more than 4 years? Yes, you're still an immigrant aren't you. No matter how much a grapefruit looks like an orange, it's still a grapefruit.
I've never heard of any rule about admission officers only giving out points for immigrants who have been here for less than 4 years. I can't find any evidence online and your anecdotal reference isn't much of a support.</p>
<p>Not everyone takes citizenship as soon as they have been here five years. According to you, even people who have been here for like ten years will still get extra points as long as they are not officially citizens and are still under Permanent Resident status. Excuse me, but I honestly think no immigrant who've been here more than four years deserves points for "being an immigrant" unless they have extenutating circumstances. To me, UC's are more lenient towards immigrants because they think that (I am assuming) immigrants haven't had the same opportunities that were available to U.S citizens.</p>
<p>But, four years is clearly enough. After all, it's your whole high school career.</p>
<p>UCSD admission rubric is a dry piece of scoresheet intended to be followed by textualism. Citizens who were not born here are still considered immigrants. It's not the fact how long you've been here, it's the fact that you were not born here. Your parents or guardians had to bear the expenditure of immigrating here, which puts you at an advantage either financially or socially. Of course, it seems unfair that someone who immigrated here at age 2 should get the same benefits as immigrants who came here at age 16, but the rubric wasn't made to be fair on such a small scale. Look at the whole rubric, which part of it besides the academic section is fair in minute details?</p>
<p>How is four years enough? I don't see your reasoning in that number.</p>
<p>"Citizens who were not born here are still considered immigrants." Are you saying they give points to ppl like that? Also, why would they give points to ppl who put down on the application as Citizens? Also, why would a person who emigrated here at the age of two want to talk about his immigration? As I have said before, the officials woudn't know you are in immigrant unless you say that in your personal essays. </p>
<p>"Look at the whole rubric, which part of it besides the academic section is fair in minute details?" What is this whole rubric that you are talking about? In which part the rubric is fair on a large scale?</p>
<p>I said four years is enough because, according to other forums, they only count your sophmore and junior year grades. It means that you have a year to catch up w/ others in your weak areas such as English. I don't think immigrants start learning A,B,C when they get here, although there might be some rare exceptions. So, it's not impossible to catch up w/ others in english in a year. One may just have to try hard. </p>
<p>"Of course, it seems unfair that someone who immigrated here at age 2 should get the same benefits as immigrants who came here at age 16, but the rubric wasn't made to be fair on such a small scale." It IS unfair. I don't even know why I am arguing w/ you about immigrants getting freebies. Although I didn't get anything, I am, after all, an immigrant too.</p>
<p>"Are you saying they give points to ppl like that? Also, why would they give points to ppl who put down on the application as Citizens? Also, why would a person who emigrated here at the age of two want to talk about his immigration? As I have said before, the officials woudn't know you are in immigrant unless you say that in your personal essays."</p>
<p>Yes, they do give immigration points to people who have citizenship. People who have dual citizenship (living in another country) and are not born in the U.S. get these points. And exactly, a person who immigrated into the country at the age of 2 wouldn't talk about immigration at all, so that limits the people who only want the points for the sake of the points even though they've been here practically their entire lives. There are better things to talk about in the personal statement.</p>
<p>"What is this whole rubric that you are talking about? In which part the rubric is fair on a large scale?"
There has been a UCSD comprehensive rubric circulating around for a while now. If you want I can send you a copy. The rubric consists of 77% academic factors and 23% other factors (including socioeconomic background). Parts of the 23% and parts of the 77% are included to make it fair for applicants who are underprivileged.</p>
<p>"I don't think immigrants start learning A,B,C when they get here, although there might be some rare exceptions. So, it's not impossible to catch up w/ others in english in a year. One may just have to try hard."
I came here without the basic knowledge of the language. I had to learn the ABC's while other kids were reading textbooks. It's not rare, it's quite common. In my old ELD class, at least half of the class didn't know a lick of English.</p>
<p>"It IS unfair."
I guess so. It really depends on if you get the points or not. To someone who came from a school with API and low income family, the rubric is wonderful. Obviously, that's not the case with many people.</p>
<p>Yes, I agree the topic got sidetracked. Anyway, my school sends plenty of people to UC's every year. Here's an estimate:
Cal: 30
UCLA: 40
UCSD: 60</p>
<p>"I came here without the basic knowledge of the language. I had to learn the ABC's while other kids were reading textbooks." Are you serious? Which country are you from? How long have you been in the U.S (if you don't mind me asking)?</p>
<p>oh... Funny when I think about it. I learned to understand english by watching cartoons. I still have a lot to work on my speaking skills though.</p>
<p>¬_¬ 80+ kids from our school get into UCSD, and of that, about 30 go.
That 30 include kids who didn't take IB, are in lower level classes (sometimes not honors), etc. Most of my IB peers are going to UCLA and Berkeley. I think I'm there's three people in our IB program of 30-40 people going to UCSD; one, I expected her to go to higher colleges because of her high GPA (but I guess her SAT was too low or something?) but the other.... Let's just leave it at that. Bad thoughts makes a person bad.</p>
<p>You can see why I'm not exactly bragging UCSD off left and right.</p>
<p>I still love UCSD tho. Triton pride nevertheless!</p>
<p><<< Preuss... 13/87 for class of 2006 going out of the 30 or so that got in. Of those 87 total people, only about 65 people are actually UC eligible. We send about 55-60% of the people to UC schools...</p>
<p>dang your schools are crazy with the 30 or 40+ kiddos goin. and i thought our school having around 10 was a lot. they're all my friends tho so its all good. other schools around my area have a higher percentage of people going to ucsd too.. its pretty popular this year.</p>
<p>UCSD will probably break top 30 in usnews rankings soon... It's such a hot school especially for life sciences. I just had to get out of San Diego...</p>
<p>^^ but didn't admission rates go up to like almost 50% this year? that might kick it down a little. :(</p>
<p>my school...sends an average of 30 to cal, 20-30 to ucla, 20 to ucsd, 20 to davis, 20 to irvine, and like 5 to the rest of the uc's. then about 5-10 to ivies, another 30 to top LACs/unis and the rest to...csu's, cc's or unknown colleges. this is out of a 300 person class.</p>