<p>“I’m not accusing the OP of sexual assault, far from it, but if someone breaks into a car left unlocked by its owner, does that lessen his offense?”</p>
<p>Car theft analogies are a good way to assess whether someone was raped or not.</p>
<p>Regardless, in some states (as someone else pointed out), intoxication nullifies consent. Argue all you want, the letter of the law says it’s sexual assault.</p>
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<p>Right but… if they’re BOTH drunk then neither of them could give consent. Therefore, either both of them would be charged with assault or neither of them. Baelor made it seem as though ONLY women could be sexually assaulted because only they can refuse to give consent- or something along those lines.</p>
<p>Whoa now, the guy made out and maybe felt her up - why did people start bringing in rape? squeezing a boob can save lives, you know ;)</p>
<p>anyway, it was a frat party, she was a drunk slob, and she’s probably forgotten about you by now (no offense). I would just forget about it, no reason to feel bad and hopefully her sober friend took care of her. plus obviously you left a bad taste in her mouth if she started throwing up after…:)</p>
<p>Alix, I completely agree with you. It was just a sexist remark to assume that only the woman could give consent (as though only women can be taken advantage of). </p>
<p>OT: And yes ladies feel your boobs (from experience with my own family, it really can save lives)! Lol</p>
<p>:rolleyes: at OP for actually feeling emotions; what an amateur</p>
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<p>Right, so by the letter of the law he was sexually assaulted, right?</p>
<p>Every thread here about a guy even getting within 10 feet of a girl turns into rape. </p>
<p>Oh yea staring at boobies 5 min a day actually prolongs life according to scientists. Forgot where I read that though… anyways, walk around topless more ladies. Amazing how many lives you will save.</p>
<p>I can tell you that a friend of my D’s almost lost everything due to a similar situation. Both were drunk- the girl claimed non consent- the guy was investigated for sexual assault. He was never charged but if the girl wakes up the next day and decides she really didn’t want to do “that” - it falls on the guy.</p>
<p>It’s true that intoxication nullifies consent. But that’s totally beside the point of the thread. Like I said before, I don’t think OP did anything wrong. I don’t think he needs to feel bad, and I doubt the girl he hooked up with is making a big deal out out it. Probably one of those "Oh man, I did what last night?"and then laughing, and then moving on. </p>
<p>I mean, that’s what college is all about.</p>
<p>@Chuy yes. Although frankly I’ve never heard of a court case involving two people who were both drunk charged with sexual assault, so I can’t say what would happen to either party.</p>
<p>And yeah, I’m not sure how the rape discussion started. I just asked the guy what exactly he did with this girl. Out of simple curiosity. I guess I wanted to just figure out how ‘awkward’ things could be between them.</p>
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<p>There’s no high horse. I pointed out something. That’s all.</p>
<p>To those who say it was sexist, that I’m insufferable, etc. Sure, the OP can’t give consent. But I don’t care about that. The OP can go ahead and charge the girl if he wants. It matters to him because she can charge him with assault/rape whatever. </p>
<p>Did I ever once say that only girls could do this? No. Did I even imply anything like that? No.</p>
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<p>What an odd way of pointing something out. Keep up the good work!</p>
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<p>Thanks! I try to do my best, but sometimes it’s hard.</p>
<p>And honestly, putting yourself in serious legal jeopardy generally falls under the category of “stupid decisions.” I’m really not seeing how this is up for debate, but I guess you can go for it if you want.</p>
<p>Ah, but of course.</p>
<p>And what’s more, one can’t really point out a person’s stupidity without using a condescending “Perhaps if… x… you wouldn’t be having this problem.” That’s only proper. Good form!</p>
<p>It is excellent form; I really do appreciate your support! Although, I do want to defend the OP – I was pointing only to one example of stupidity in decision-making, which you expanded to a general level of lack of mental aptitude. An unwarranted move, I do say!</p>
<p>you got to feel boobs = good for you</p>
<p>sober friend of drunk girl protected her from leaving and going somewhere with someone she didn’t know = good job by sober friend</p>
<p>end of situation.</p>
<p>man i come back 2 days later and this discussion took a dive off the deep end. just fyi, i did end up adding her on facebook, and we exchanged a couple of messages. she said she remembered bits and pieces but never responded to my most recent message. also, there were pictures of us on facebook where she would drag me into pictures (and i was obviously GONE in the pictures), but she took one of the down where it clearly shows us making out in the bathroom hahaha. i dont know man, i just felt bad…i dont like to be an a**hole but i felt that night i was. </p>
<p>i dont know. my friends call me an amateur, my other friends tell me i care too much. im just completely afraid of being that guy that the girl looks at and is like “omg i cant believe i hooked up with THAT while i was drunk” hence, this is why it was my first DRUNKEN hook up.</p>
<p>They spent about 3 hours at Orientation telling us that having sex with a drunk girl is (legally) sexual assault. If Princeton does the same, I could see why it would stick in Baelor’s head.</p>
<p>^Princeton did, but that wasn’t why I posted. I posted because it simply is true – there are legal ramifications that could pose serious problems for the OP.</p>
<p>Also, drunken hookups in general are a bad idea, if only because they are very destructive to the idea of people as being more than a tool to find sexual gratification. But no one seems to agree with this, so IDK…</p>