<p>It looks like there are a bunch of CC forum kids applying for Fellows this year. Let’s hope that everyone gets an invite to interview in February. Perhaps we can post basic, non-identifiable stats so everyone can get an idea of what type of students are applying. </p>
<p>DS applied with good grades/stats but not as a NMSF. He has a strong background of community service and leadership over multiple years.</p>
<p>Special thanks to “mom” who has provided invaluable information to so many of us this year. I think the UFE pool will increase in part because of your fantastic information and recommendations.</p>
<p>I don’t know how many get invited for UFE interviews. I know that when DS1 was invited for his CBHP interview, I think about 57 were invited as finalists. Actually, probably 60 were invited, but 57 were at the official interview (sometimes a few have to interview at other times due to scheduling problems.)</p>
<p>I’m guessing about the same number are invited for UFE interviews (does anyone know anything different?)</p>
<p>ahhh! thanks…I hadn’t seen that on the website…I’ll look for that. :)</p>
<p>I do think that those who get invited to both CBHP and UFE interviews are allowed to do it the same day (instead of returning a few days later for the other interview.)</p>
<p>I wonder if their going to expand the number of UFE students?</p>
<p>In the past they’ve only accepted 40 per year for UFE. However, I can’t think of a reason as to why the number needs to be so limited since no classes are involved.</p>
<p>However, maybe I’m not aware of the reason for limiting the number to 40. Why not 50? anyone know? It just seems that inviting 100 for only 40 spots seems excessive. They don’t do that for CBHP. They only invite 60 or less for 40 spots.</p>
<p>I can understand why CBHP is limited - because each group of 40 is divided into two classes of 20 for freshmen year. Then, from soph year forward, they have to meet with Dr. Sharpe, therefore adding more to that group could be unmanageable.</p>
<p>we dont have to understand why LOL. it’s the schools decision, its a prestigious award and the prestige goes up with the selectivity as at any college. i would love it if my son, and everyone here got accepted but the reality is they all wont and possibly none here will get it. if more and more people got accepted the perceived value of it goes down. as far as why so many invited… admittedly UA is a safety for alot of kids, so i would expect that the yield may be lower than 50 percent accept the award.</p>
<p>Well, the only reason I wondered is because CBHP used to only accept 20, but at some point, they began accepting 40. So, the Honors College does sometimes change it’s mind, but it would be hard for CBHP to go to 60 (increments of 20) because that would make it hard on Dr. Sharpe when the kids are upperclassmen.</p>
<p>UFE isn’t really not an award, it’s a program. And, it’s a program that does good works. But, it is an honor to be selected! </p>
<p>I was surprised to hear that they invite 100 for interviews for UFE…That’s why I was wondering if perhaps they were thinking of expanding the size. </p>
<p>*so i would expect that the yield may be lower than 50 percent accept the award. *</p>
<p>As for yield. The yield is super high for those who get accepted. Typically only a tiny number who get accepted don’t end up going to UA. Some students decline ivies and choose CBH or UFE. However, I do know a student who was waitlisted at Dartmouth, then got accepted during the early summer, and then chose Dartmouth. Also, I think that during the interview process, UA tries to figure out how strongly the student is about choosing UA if admitted into one of these programs. I would NOT advocate misleading the committee and saying that I would attend, if my heart was really on attending a different school. This is a big deal, and UA expects a high yield and typically gets a high yield. Last year, only a tiny number got chosen from the waiting list. Nearly every accepted applicant to UFE and CBHP is going to UA.</p>
<p>BTW…I just looked at the Fellows website, and I don’t see where it says that they invite 100 for interviews? Was that in your snail mail paperwork? Or, somewhere else?</p>
<p>*I would NOT advocate misleading the committee and saying that I would attend, if my heart was really on attending a different school. This is a big deal, and UA expects a high yield and typically gets a high yield. Last year, only a tiny number got chosen from the waiting list. Nearly every accepted applicant to UFE and CBHP is going to UA.
*</p>
<p>I just wanted to add to the above. If your child doesn’t want to go to UA, then he shouldn’t accept the interview if asked. This interview process is time consuming and expensive. UA doesn’t “over accept” in anticipation that some will decline. It only accepts 40 each, but notifies a very small number that they are on the waiting list. So, obviously, misleading the committed into thinking that the student will go to UA if accepted into one of these 2 programs is a waste of everyone’s time and money.</p>
<p>When my son accepted his CBHP interview, he knew that he would go to UA if accepted to CBHP.</p>
<p>From either the UFE or CBHP rejection letters, the reason given for the limited size of the programs is the number of faculty mentors willing to participate in the program. UA does have a good yield for these programs, but some people do interview with little intention of attending UA. I was an alternate for CBHP, but Dr. Sharpe was still accepting applications for any remaining spots in CBHP in late May (which was not fair at all, IMHO). CBHP was increased to 40 students per year with the addition of an additional section of classes. I think the mentor reason is more that overloading Dr. Sharpe as history shows he can hold numerous positions successfully. It’s going to be interesting to see if he is made the non-interim dean of the honors college or stay with CBHP.</p>
<p>*I was an alternate for CBHP, but Dr. Sharpe was still accepting applications for any remaining spots in CBHP in late May (which was not fair at all, IMHO). *</p>
<p>Sea_Tide…are you saying that even tho there was a waiting list (with you on it), when a couple of spots opened up in May (when a few opted to go elsewhere), that Dr. Sharpe still allowed some more kids to interview? I don’t like that, either. Did he say why?</p>
<p>but some people do interview with little intention of attending UA.</p>
<p>Oh, I know some do accept interviews that have little or no intention of going to UA, and that’s unfortunate. I think that’s why UA interviews more than need to try to discern who those kids are so that they don’t get accepted. Why should they get accepted? Getting accepted is no big deal if you have no intention of going to UA. </p>
<p>I think some think that UA over-accepts in anticipation of getting many rejections (as Parent56 mistakenly thought). In actuality, UA tries to figure out who genuinely will come to UA if accepted, then accepts exactly as many as needed. If a few change their minds later, then Dr. Sharpe fills those few spots after May. One girl got a spot this year a day or two before classes began because for some reason, some kid either decided to go elsewhere or decided to go to UA, but not do CBHP (some are afraid of the work level).</p>
<p>I, too, wonder if Dr. Sharpe is going to be named permanent dean. If so, I wonder who will become director of CBHP? I really don’t think he would want to give up the CBHP part, but being a dean has its perks.</p>
<p>I think the explanation was that there was still time to join any honors program that you may have overlooked. Since you can join UHP/IHP at any time, I was okay with those being promoted, but for those of us who work hard to meet deadlines, including CBHP in the opportunities is a no-no since the deadline had been months earlier.</p>
<p>^ I agree, while I know special circumstances sometimes arise I can’t say I’m thrilled to find that the hard deadlines are anything but. IMHO making and sticking to a deadline is an ability that should be considered for all of the programs and scholarships.</p>
<p>^^^
I agree that there should be some hard deadlines. The Honors College needs to comes to terms with how the Admissions office operates. Admissions doesn’t have instantaneous turn-arounds, and they (understandably) still have reps visiting schools in mid November, therefore it’s silly to set such early deadlines for UFE. Since the Honors College insists that students be accepted before they can apply to honors, then the deadline to apply shouldn’t be so early. There really isn’t a logical reason to have the deadline before Jan 5th. </p>
<p>As for CBHP…it just isn’t right to accept late applications for those precious few openings that occur when a 2 or 3 students decline CBHP, where there already is a waiting list. Those on the waiting list should be asked first, and if after that list is exhausted (for whatever reason), only then should others be interviewed.</p>
<p>it pretty competitive, i think on the website it said, approx 1000 would potentially qualify, they will interview 100 and only about 10 are selected. so about 1:100 chance?</p>
<p>I don’t know where the figure that 100 will be interviewed comes from.</p>
<p>However, my son recently told me that 100 get phone interviews, and then 50-60 are invited for campus interviews. He’s not sure where he heard that.</p>
<p>Since 50-60 are invited for campus interviews for CBHP, it makes sense that they would invite about the same number for campus interviews. I don’t know if CBHP is now also doing phone interviews to narrow their number of campus interviews or not.</p>
And, it’s a program that does good works. But, it is an honor to be selected!