<p>I’m a mom of a male and a female. If anything, I think the females get more opportunity. Have worked in a technical field for 20 years. Never, as in NOT ONCE felt as if I encountered gender bias. I think women do part-time. Women take breaks for child rearing. Women subtly rely on their spouse financially (I know I did) and simply don’t hustle quite as much. And fewer women go into the STEM fields. That said, there are a lot of women, and an increasing number not taking these outs and pushing their careers to the limits. That’s great. Nothing is standing in their way, except maybe their personal goals.</p>
<p>I am so weary of grievances in this country. There are too many making grievance their vocation. It isn’t useful, in fact it’s harmful.</p>
<p>Oh, and for those mystified by ridiculous “studies” being published, try checking out the lovely phenomenon of “advocacy science” in our era. Preposterous to hold that because it’s published and peer reviewed it is fact.</p>
<p>One problem is that no one is allowed to talk about what they make. Just knowing what the going rate for my sort of work is, is surprisingly difficult to find out. Knowing what the draftsperson sitting next to you is making is almost impossible.</p>
<p>I read a news article once that claimed that the discrepancy mainly is in the fact that women take more sick days statistically (or something like that) and that they have maternity leave. I’m not sure I believed it, but it was interesting nonetheless.</p>
<p>Very interesting and telling, if this experiment was done.</p>
<p>Maybe it’s time to not allow men take advantage of women. Why do women have to yield to men at so many levels? We certainly can have equal pay for equal work, more stay home dads, or even more than 50 female senators.</p>
<p>lake42ks “Maybe it’s time to not allow men take advantage of women. Why do women have to yield to men at so many levels? We certainly can have equal pay for equal work, more stay home dads, or even more than 50 female senators.”</p>
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<li><p>if you take a look at the study it said both men and women downgraded the female applicant. If the study is correct then it’s not a male issue.</p></li>
<li><p>stay home dads - it is still not completely accepted that men can be stay at home dads without being looked down upon. Despite feminism there are still a fair number of women who would not even consider allowing their husbands to be stay-at-home dads. </p></li>
<li><p>female senators - can’t be any worse than what we’ve got but I don’t expect they will be any better either.</p></li>
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<p>In most companies I know of, payroll is a significant, if not the most dominant expense, and there is more than one meeting on how to keep within the budget. Why wouldn’t a company that’s struggling just hire the Jennifers and Janes, maybe giving them an above market 90 cents, and have the savings drop right down to the bottom line? Why do companies that go through all the hassles and negatives of outsourcing to save a buck ignore this simple solution? Or is this another example of the art of creating statistics to support a viewpoint?</p>
<p>@ sewhappy, Do you understand the concept of an accepted peer-reviewed scientific study? Because when a paper is peer-reviewed and accepted, it means it’s solid scientific evidence.</p>
<p>I have to review a lot of academic papers, and I will be the first to testify that a lot of what gets published is total rubbish. There is a lot of mutual back-scratching among people who are reviewing their colleagues’ work.</p>
<p>Just Google “scientific peer review scandal” and all kinds of examples pop up.</p>
<p>You’d think it wouldn’t take a professor to come up with that… But politicians aren’t in the business of making the country better, they’re in the business of fooling the voters into thinking it’s better.</p>
<p>Yeah. In my industry, everyone gets the same entry-level offer. If anything, I think the discrepancy is mostly due to the beforementioned men choosing more lucrative careers & men being more direct. </p>
<p>For example, men are more likely to be aggressive in negotiating offers and/or answering the question “What pay range are you looking for?”</p>
<p>A lot of men go towards jobs in subjects/areas they are good at that are associated with earning money while women go towards jobs that they enjoy. It deals with human nature. Which I wish people would stop trying to eliminate.</p>