<p>OP, honestly, if you want girls listen to a girl's advice, and not that of some idiot who thinks he knows what goes on in our twisted minds.</p>
<p>Actually I must disagree. </p>
<p>Please note I'm not that all woman advice is useless, just don't think just because it is advice from a girl that is it automatically foolproof. Their advice have to be taken with a grain as salt as well. Don't forget the common fact that many times that themself know about themself the least.</p>
<p>I'm 5'2 and tall guys are hot. haha. My prom date was like 6 ft tall though and it was really interesting to see how short i was compared to him lol</p>
<p>But really, I'm ok long as the guy is noticeably taller than me in a heel. Like people can tell that he's taller than me.</p>
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I also did some other things that were mean and disrespectful. AND SHE LOVED IT!
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that might be just because she has M tendencies. If you ever did that to me, personally I would've been pretty ****ed off. But that may be because i like to be dominating tendencies cough cough</p>
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Yet every action, and every aspect of my personality is perceived differently simply because of my smaller stature
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<p>that's the same for girls too. There's a saying that goes (for girls) "a girl is pretty, than their personality is good too"</p>
<p>When i think about it, girls do like mean guys.</p>
<p>They re looking for a 'bad boy' who will reply to her and who can protect her and stuff. They want to feel secure i guess.</p>
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OP, honestly, if you want girls listen to a girl's advice, and not that of some idiot who thinks he knows what goes on in our twisted minds.</p>
<p>Actually I must disagree. </p>
<p>Please note I'm not that all woman advice is useless, just don't think just because it is advice from a girl that is it automatically foolproof. Their advice have to be taken with a grain as salt as well. Don't forget the common fact that many times that themself know about themself the least.
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<p>I agree with you, I was just a bit angry at the above poster. </p>
<p>The thing is that not all girls like the same things in guys. Be yourself, and find out what the girls you like want and tweak a few things. Don't be completely different.</p>
<p>Kenshinsan, maybe you're just going after the wrong girls. Honestly, if a guy ever treated me like what you describe, I would never consider dating him. I've been dating a "nice guy" for 5 years.</p>
<p>Oi, Kenshinsan, so you hate doing that. I don't have time to make another long post. So I'll keep this short. Pease listen to what I saying . It is not your meanness that is working, it is the fact you are not bowing to her. It is the you are not walking on eggshells anymore.</p>
<p>So you just started to act like this, ok that means you are experimenting currently. So let me give you a challege to experiment then. Tone down the jerkiness a bit. Now you will not be purposefully act mean to her, but instead do what your instincts tells you to. Listen if you feel like you want to listen. If you think what she is saying is dumb, tell that it is, if it not, then say its not. If she pick something to conflict on (like Frenchdude's story), bark back (don't lose your temper however). Tic-for-tac, reward her only if she earns it. Do that, and come back and tell me how it went.</p>
<p>Kenshinsan please no bold. we are not illiterate. </p>
<p>uyulove- "I'm 5'2 and tall guys are hot."</p>
<p>this comment will not help the OP thread. Speaking of OP, You haven't given us a reason why girls should like you. You just say how you are dateless.</p>
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uyulove- "I'm 5'2 and tall guys are hot."
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<p>This just proves that women are so predictable. I know wutangfinancial and Kenshinsan's posts make women look like ignorant playthings, but that comment just doesn't help their cause LoL.</p>
<p>One man's "scientific" research into the world of dating - applying his theories to find trends among common social judgement calls. </p>
<p>Interesting snippets:
"A 5-foot-8 man was just as successful in getting dates as a 6-footer if he made more money --- precisely $146,000 a year more. For a 5-foot-2 man, the number was $277,000." </p>
<p>"Maybe the most striking numbers are with regard to income-ethnicity trade-offs, as shown in Table 5.6. For equal success with a white woman, an African-American man needs to earn $154,000 more than a white man. Hispanic men need an additional $77,000, and Asian men need an additional $247,000 in annual income. In contrast to men, women mostly cannot compensate for their ethnicity with a higher income." (page 29) </p>
<p>More info on heightism:
"A survey of Fortune 500 CEO height in 2005 revealed that they were on average 6 feet tall, which is 3 inches taller than the average American man. Fully 30% of these CEOs were 6 foot 2 inches tall or more; in comparison only 3.9% of the overall United States population is of this height.[6] Equally significantly, similar surveys have uncovered that less than 3% of CEOs were below 5′7″ in height, and that 90% of CEOs are of above average height."</p>
<p>Clearly, it isn't just insecurity. A few outliers don;t change the fact that on average if your short, your screwed</p>
<p>^^data can be misleading sometimes.. but its interesting :p. Plus data isn't going to tell me my success with women. Its just numbers</p>
<p>I don't think height is such a huge factor as you guys make it out to be. I mean I'm like 5'9 (and Asian) and I think Ill do pretty good with women. But I only dated with girls who were shorter than I (personal reason). I dunno know about that racial issues with success with white women... I mean I myself dated white girls and seen other Asian brothers have great success too.
Height is just shallow excuse for not being successful with guys or girls. Cuz you cant say that she/he doesn't like me b/c I'm too short...(lame reason). </p>
<p>My point is that attitude/personality/game outplay any physical attributes in attracting a girl/boy.</p>
<p>To OP. Just be more aggressive. Let her know that want her by body language and flirting. Problem solved :p. The reason you get on the "friend" list is that you don't take any action.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, Ant8904 made tons of great points and he seems like he knows what hes saying. (my bad about assuming you are a dude but you sound like one :)) Listen to his advice as well</p>
<p>Jerk Vs Nice Guy<a href="My%20opinions">/U</a></p>
<p>The reason why being a jerk is successful sometimes is that:
1. You're being aggressive
2. You're being confident
3. Being able to voice your own opinions (you aint going to agree with everything she says/does)
4. You wont take **** from anybody.</p>
<p>Many other reasons but I cant think that fast :(</p>
<p>Anyways, Being a nice guy is great and all but you be put on the "just friend" list alot quicker cuz:
1. Nice guys usually don't take any actions or wait for the girl to say she likes him.........
2. Great person to talk to cuz they are nice and supportive like her girlfriends...
3. Have absolutely no backbone.
4. Usually Nice guy=Great Friends
5. Girls just see you in a different perspective.</p>
<p>Avoid being a jerk though. You can pick certain characteristics of typical jerk and incorporate in your personality. Don't be mean but meanwhile have self-respect</p>
<p>Oh yeah try the "Cocky Humor" personality cuz I think its better than a jerk:
1. You are funny and have huge confident in yourself.
2. You show the girl you are aggressive and confident in a funny and positive way...(I think i just repeated no. 1)</p>
<p>Yeah.. That was long. And Probably only a couple of ppl going to read it..but who cares :p. </p>
<p>To OP: Feel free to ignore my advice/opinions if you disagree.</p>
<p>Wutangfinancial, I like to see the source on the money. I wonder how would women know how much money he makes before the first date? How the the study conducted? </p>
<p>Great, so you found that 500 CEOs only 10% are short. Great job! Everyone who is short should just kill ourselves or move to the ghettos telling each other how the big man is keep the short people down! </p>
<p>Wait a minute, there only 500 CEOs...</p>
<p>Great, you have proven that short people have a disadvantage in becomming CEOs, don't extrapoliate to saying that short people cannot far in life and live well. You did not proved that short people are screwed for life, though you indicated that there's an extra barrier, yet you can still find plent of shorter people doing just fine, and I'm sure it is far too many to be called just outliers. </p>
<p>Oh and BTW every heard of correlation does not imply causation?</p>
<p>I have to ask you, why must you be so pessimistic and keep going around telling everyone they are screwed? I'm not a tall man, yet I never seen my difficulties in life caused by my height (except in reaching for stuff). Why are you so keen on thinking about the problems that height caused you? I would understand if you see it as a social injustice and wish to fight it, but only seem to want to spread pessimism to everyone. BTW, wasn't there studies that showed that pessimistic people have a less satisfied life and die younger?</p>
<p>lol @ this thread.</p>
<p>I would have to agree with UcMichigan. Just be more aggressive and confident and show her that you like her.</p>
<p>"I'm 6'3"</p>
<p>I'm better looking. So there. j/k</p>
<p>Uh did you guys NOT READ the 2nd part???</p>
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But really, I'm ok long as the guy is noticeably taller than me in a heel. Like people can tell that he's taller than me.
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that pretty much means he has to be 5'5 and up because I'm damn short.
It really doesn't matter what my personal tastes are anyways because there are many many fishes in the sea.</p>
<p>wutang...I feel you. Well not really. But after being in discussions on millions of similar threads, ithat sucks to be short. Im 5'11" so im fine, but yeah, u and the OP kinda got it bad.</p>
<p>I'm 6'3" breaking 6'4" and I hate it. I wish I was 6'0" or 5'11". Everything is made for shorter people. The world isn't very accommodating for us mini giants.</p>
<p>I find it funny how almost every guy on here is whining, Maybe it's your personalities that's leaving you date-less?</p>
<p>I like being 6'2''. It's refreshing. Every now and then I walk around slumped over, just to see what it would look like to be 6'' shorter. It's eerie.</p>
<p>Girl is the most dangerous animal.</p>
<p>Everyone here have to stop whining about their problems. I'm barely 5'9" and I'm doing alright with the ladies. I have a friend who's like 5'6" AND Asian (O no!). Turns out, he has a white girlfriend. You people have nothing to blame but yourselves for your lack of success. Of course no one's going to like your personality if you just whine all day long about how ur too short.</p>
<p>So girls won't date short guys but will guys date fat girls?</p>