<p>Um, excuse me, I take major offense that you seem to think all women are gold-diggers. I'm sorry, but I was raised by a strong woman who taught me never to rely on men for money, to make my own, and even to have separate bank accounts if I did get married. I plan on having my own career and making my own money, and you better believe a pre-nup'll be involved if I get married. I don't want someone else's handouts, thanks.</p>
<p>^I have to agree with AUlostchick on this one. </p>
<p>I was raised the same way. My mom has three siblings, and in my family the women are definetly much more strong and independant. My mom and her sister are lawyers, and both my uncles basically do nothing - one of them is over 45 and still lives at my grandparents, and the other watches discovery channel from his couch most of the day. Both of my uncles started but never finished university, while my mom and aunt have six degrees between them. It would be unreasonable for me not to call myself a feminist after growing up under these circumstances. My dad is also a laywer, and we are always having long debates about maternity leave policies in the corporate work environment. </p>
<p>If a guy has issues with a woman making more money than him (and a lot of guys do), that is a huge turnoff for me. I would never be in a long-term relationship with somebody who wouldn't take me seriously.</p>
<p>Whenever I meet a blond girl I assume she is dumb and vain until proven the contrary. More often than not my vision stands.</p>
<p>Deluxehardballer, I have observed this trend as well (although it only applies to attractive girls).</p>
<p>But say you are 5'8, average looking, and not smooth/cool around girls, is there anyway to cheat the system or do you have to wait until you have a solid career to get the ladie's interest? :)</p>
<p>ladies' interest*</p>
<p>I'm 6'0" and I'm not a stud. I have a naturally angry face (those are my facial features) and I don't like putting myself out there to talk to anybody, especially some dumb girl. I have never had alcohol nor done drugs and I don't go to parties because bad things always happen. For now, I'm concentrating on school. My time will come, as will yours.</p>
<p>I hope you are serious about school, because unless you drink and enjoy wasting your time, girls won't find you attractive (even though being 5'8" really isn't a factor). When I say this, it is understood that I mean "pretty" girls. Those girls know they look good and get hit on constantly, so they have less interest in school and concentrate more on their looks and having fun.</p>
<p>For now, let us enjoy watching those dumb girls squander their opportunities while they bang random guys and spend the AM hours puking their guts out.</p>
<p>A 5'8 guy can pull hotties. They just have to be shorter than him in heels, and you have to be good looking and not a minority, and wear nice clothes, party, etc.</p>
<p>think you guys dont get out enough. its not automatic that a girl will like you if you 6'0 tall. HAVE SOME FUN for crying out loud. just because your short doesnt mean you cant have a good time.</p>
<p>basically. get your money up if you want to live comfortably. and i don't mean get your money up when your 30, now!
can't knock a hustle</p>
<p>Funny story. Went to U of C this summer for the highschool program. Got hit on by hot girls, and i don't drink/do drugs. And i wear girl pants and band shirts. Long hair. Hot girls hit on me the whole time. Even when they found out that i dont drink/"party". I think maybe being from california might have something to do with it. Everyone thought i was amazing because of it (not everyone, but some were like "omg california").</p>
<p>But yeah it was funny. Maybe it was my boy band that i created when i was there...but maybe not, cause my friends in it didnt get the same. Or maybe cause i was lead vocals. Yeah, hilrious story. Probably not for u reading this, but it was for me.</p>
<p>I'm disappointed by the cynicism in this thread. I did wonder, though: instead of drawing the analogy between short guys and overweight girls, how about comparing height and bra size? That seems to be a pretty important consideration for most guys, but I haven't seen any outrage about that brand of superficiality here.</p>
<p>For whatever it's worth, I'm 5'6, thin, long-haired, and not completely unfortunate-looking (though certainly no model); the guy I like is 5'6, considerate, polite, intelligent, and a good conversationalist. I won't draw any sweeping conclusions about male and female preferences from that, though, because that doesn't make statistical sense... I'm just saying.</p>
<p>I care not about bra size, seriously, and I think that is a more fair comparison. I mean big boobs are a bonus, but in no way a requirement. I have enever heard a guy say he will only date girls with DD's. I have heard girls say they only date guys over 6'.</p>
<p>I was at karma sutra yesterday, and damn the girls looked good. Low and behold, tis little dude next to me is with a seriously dope chick (not a stripper) and there both in a strip club.</p>
<p>Most guys I know say "As long as she's got enough for a handful, it's okay with me" about bra size. In fact, most of them don't want a girl bigger than a C because after that's when they start getting droopy and ugly.</p>
<p>Wondering why ppl here still think height is the reason for their troubles/success with the opposites sex...</p>
<p>And to see ppl complaining/whining something they can't change is absurd. We can't change our height so stop blaming on it as the sole reason :p. Oh yeah, I have never seen height as a prob with dating...but it becomes a prob to me with sports (wished I was taller for hurdling and bball :(). </p>
<p>How bout focusing on something easier. Like We change our attitude/game alot faster than our height... Other important attributes play roles on attracting ppl. For me, I really focus on my flirting/game, and girls will overlook that I'm 5'9 and Asian (which are not really important at all). Attitude is key for me.. Oh yeah, it helps that Im aight looking (at least thats what I think :)). </p>
<p>I only read a couple of pages...Anyways, I hate to see ppl say that racial differences = no success in the dating world. Being Asian doesn't mean we can't get girls of other races... I mean I'm Asian and I have had no problem dating white girls (dated only Caucasians and Asians). My asian bros and I have never been rejected/ignored by the simple fact we are "asian." Oh yeah, I live in the South and there aren't many Asians.</p>
<p>Finally, waiting to get rich and successful, so you can land hot girls is unnecessary/ridiculous. That hot girl will probably be superficial and shallow as ****. We dudes can get any girl we want. We don't need to compensate our lack of game with money. Seriously, if you waited..you will lack experience and common sense bout dating. Just go for it...Have some confident in yourself. Take time off of work to party and date once in awhile.</p>
<p>That was long again..But Im tired and finally have some time to post here :p. Oh yeah, (alil off subject) can someone tell me why there are 5000 views but only 170 replies.... I mean 5000 is alot.</p>
<p>Dunno If OP reposted, but update us on ur progress. GL. I think i posted on this topic b/f..</p>
<p>o yeah, BIGTWIX cool story but dunno if that had anything to do with the topic of discussion :p.</p>
<p>All I know is that people are lurking and learning. The moar you know, the better.</p>
<p>Once you have your awesome job and are rich, you can get with women all you want. The hotter the better, so as long as you don't let her leech off of you. Say what you need to, like hinting at proposing to her. Knowing this, you can call her up at 3AM for some late-night action. DO NOT PROPOSE, however. Once she gets the ring, she thinks she owns you. Play your cards right, and you'll hold her for a long time while keeping her distant.</p>
<p>NOTE: This does not apply to ugly/smart girls. Superficial girls will one day realize that theres more to life than looks.</p>
<p>Also, this only applies to young women nowadays. The older women have come to their senses. Solution? When you want to settle down, marry a woman your own age.</p>
<p>u guys r getting all technical</p>
<p>just get out there, do ur thing, and there will be a girl attracted to u</p>
<p>yo, deluxehardballer, I know I'm bitter and all, but I'm usually half kidding. Money really isn't a good way to get girls. It works, for sure, but trust me, once you become sexually active, you'll understand why it's not worth having sex with someone not attracted to you.</p>
<p>If your 6' tall, and the only neg, is you don't drink/smoke, you can def. pull chicks. Just get a more positive attitude. You're rejecting yourself, assuming girls won't like you. Get off your high horse and have some fun. I'm not saying go for the dumb sorority chicks, go for decent looking smart girls you can relate to.</p>
<p>Where I go to school, smart and pretty are mutually exclusive.</p>
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u guys r getting all technical</p>
<p>just get out there, do ur thing, and there will be a girl attracted to u
I like this, actually. It's more sensible than most of this thread.</p>
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<p>It's not just your school.</p>
<p>UcMichigan. It was mostly just a "hey, people think im weird, or uncommonly different, and they are/can still be attracted to me, and i dont smoke or drink" so yeah you can get girls if you dont smoke or drink story.</p>
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You still showed preference for taller men though, saying that they're "hot". Don't blame us men that we can read you like a book.
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Yeah its a preference, but its not a must. It's like guys like hotter girls but they can't always get them sooo... whatever you guys think. I've been brainwashed by my friend, lol. However, my bestfriend wants a guy who's eye level with her so whatever floats people's boats. and of course you can read me like a book, most people have very similar 'ideal' dream girl/guy. I also know what kinda girls most guys like so it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. duh.</p>
<p>and i just like reading this thread, haha its hilarious</p>