<p>Wisconsin plans to end making up the tuition gap so that in the future Wisco kids going to Minn schools will pay Minn instate tuition which is much higher.</p>
<p>Even with the approximate $3000 increase in tuition, UMTC is still a great bargain compared to a Wisconsin kid attending any of the other B10 universities.</p>
<p>S just turned down U Minn for UW Madison. Costs more for a comparable school. Sorry.</p>
<p>With budgets being cut I suppose state flagships will be looking to bring in more revenue from out of state students.</p>
<p>Big 10 Dad – where did you get the info on the approximately $3K tuition increase? I looked on the web site and it is not posted yet. Yikes…</p>
<p>It was mentioned in the news a couple times this year.
Personally, I was sent an “Estimated costs” letter, and tuition is significantly higher than previous years.</p>
<p>BTD was talking about the current tuition gap. It could change as both are likely to go up. UW is planning an 8.5% increase as of now. I suspect Uminn will also go higher.</p>
<p>I believe it was last summer that the U of Minn raised their tuition for in state and lowered the out of state.</p>
<p>Either way, I would say that the $3k per year is fairly negligible, in the long run. As a recent UMN grad (chose UMN over UW, and originally from Madison and in Madison now), I found housing costs to be less expensive in Minneapolis than in Madison. Living off-campus, I paid just over $400 per month in Minneapolis, including parking, for an updated duplex with one roommate, each with our own room. The year before, I lived in a 5-bedroom house at $280 each (!), including parking. The cost of these apartments in Madison would be much higher, accounting for much more than $3k per year. </p>
<p>Cost of food is about the same at your major big-box grocery stores, I find the cost of drinks (for when your student becomes 21+) are actually cheaper in Minneapolis at the right places, and opportunities for fun (other than binge-drinking Big 10 culture that I have a love/hate relationship with) are much more prevalent at UMN.</p>
<p>Either way, I believe that the cost of everything, all said and done, really depends on doing your due diligence when it comes to housing and sticking to a budget in daily life. I think that Minnesota and Wisconsin, as colleges, are relatively the same, but I think that Minnesota offers a wider variety of programs and better opportunities for internships and professional experience, while still in school.</p>
<p>What is actually ending(sometime in the future but hasn’t yet) is the WI Supplement, not reciprocity. WI and MN have reciprocity that allows admitted students from either state to attend at that state’s in-state tuition. However, MN in-state is higher than WI in-state so WI makes up the difference for WI students attending MN state schools.
For school year 2011-12 this amount is an annual $994 for a class of 2012 graduate(based upon my D’s recent invoice). BIG changes are in the works for UW tuition & fee structures in coming years so I wouldn’t base decisions between these two schools on slight tuition differences.<br>
Soon there may even be a situation like D’s roommate’s, who attends UMN at a MUCH lower cost out of state with non-reciprocal, than it would have cost her to attend her own flagship state U as in-state. Just as MN residents attend UW schools out of state cheaper than attending their own system in-state.
My question as a WI taxpayer is whether or not the UW system is going to start charging MN students in the UW system the MN state rate or is the state ending only WI kids supplementation?</p>
<p>We just toured Madison on Thursday and I believe that when they put tuition up on the board, there were 3 different rates - one for Wisconsin residents, one for Minnesota residents and one for OOS students. The Minnesota price I believe was the amount a Minnesota student would pay to go to UMN. I don’t know for sure, but I always thought Minnesota students always paid the MN state rate. With reciprocity (and even without it) the cost for Wisconsin and other OOS students is definitely better than the other OOS schools I have been looking at. With the merit scholarships UMN awards, UMN is definitely a school that a brighter midwest student should look at!</p>
<p>For Wisconsin kids that were rejected by Madison but still want to attend a B10 university, UMinn remains the best tuition deal of the remaining choices.</p>
<p>For Minnesota kids that were rejected by Minnesota but still want to attend a B10 university, UW remains the best tuition deal of the remaining choices.</p>
<p>Since when is Wisconsin the pinnacle of Big Ten education?</p>
<p>BTD-You are pretty funny. Check the facts, UMN’s admission rate is 48%, UW-Madison is 67% (CC’s SuperMatch). A fact supported by plenty of personal anecdotal evidence. For example, in the last 4 years out of each class of around 400 coming from one award winning WI HS, the average number of admitted students to UMN=3, while UW admits between 50/55 from the same school. Another Milwaukee suburban, college prep, HS with graduating class sizes that average 600 only sees about 6-8 annually accepted.</p>
<p>UW-Madison is a fine school, but for the life of me I can’t understand the absolute need of some people to insist that UMN is a fall back safety “if kids [are] rejected by UW Madison” BTW-I am Wisconsin born and bred, neither of my kids have had any desire to go to UW so didn’t apply. D was one of only 5 in her graduating class that was accepted to UMN (actually was accepted at all 9 of the schools she applied to) and chose UMN.</p>
<p>Other things that set UMN apart from UW per the SuperMatch:
UMN=Larger Metropolitan Campus
UMN=Higher HS GPA
UMN=More African Americans and more Asians
UMN=Lower retention & graduation rate (used to bother me until my D attended there and I discovered that this is somewhat due to the school being very difficult with gateway classes for a number of the popular majors that weeds out some students) D is graduating in four years easily, despite changing majors, by working closely with advisors; and has loved her time there so much she routinely says she wishes she could go back and start all over again.</p>
<p>Additionally, UMN is a concentrated campus within a thriving cosmopolitan city that has more theatre seats per capita than any other US city, except NYC. UW is a sprawling campus in what would be a college town except for the State Capital - two totally different vibes. [As a business owner who does business in all the upper Midwestern states, I can tell you for a fact that when it comes to WI and MN, it isn’t even close, MN is thriving, especially Minneapolis/St. Paul – WI businesses are struggling]</p>
<p>That all being said, I don’t think someone who would be happy at UW-Madison would be happy at UMN and visa versa. Bottom-line: I wouldn’t let cost or perceived ease of admittance be the determining factor when deciding about applying to THESE two schools.</p>
<p>As for OP, around $1000 is the cost difference between the two schools if you see them as different sides to the same coin.</p>
<p>Why so defensive? W/in the context of this thread, “best tuition deal of the remaining choices” is pretty accurate. UW is cheaper.</p>
<p>UMinn’s inferiority complex to UW knows no bounds. Theater seats per capita–yeah that’s what kids looking at colleges really care about. All of them theater majors. I’ll take a winning football team and so would most kids going to a B10 school. Mom, you admissions data is older than my classic car. UW enrolled students are clearly better both on test scores and class rank. Check you Common Data Sets.</p>
<p>Haha this is a heated thread. Yeah one thing about umn is that I do wish the football didn’t suck. Oh well I’ll always be a sooner at heart!</p>