final chances thread

<p>hey all,
here's my final chances thread after getting my first semester freshman grades at a top 20 LAC:</p>

<p>GPA: 3.7 (no curve for my classes)</p>

<p>Classes
Calc 2 + 3 intros</p>

<p>SATs
Math: 790
Critical Reading: 740
Writing: 720</p>

<p>SAT IIs
Math 2c: 710
Literature: 730</p>

<p>APs
AB Calculus: 5
BC Calculus: 5
English Language: 4
Spanish Language: 4
Latin: 4
English LIterature: 3
Spanish Literature: 3
Environmental Science: 3</p>

<p>ECs: varsity athlete</p>

<p>chances at the following schools?</p>

<p>Amherst
Tufts
Penn
Cornell (CAS)
Brown
Yale (legacy)
Stanford
Pomona
Georgetown</p>

<p>Thanks,
Claymangs</p>

<p>We have very simillar stats and were applying to many of the same colleges...so i think you are a very competitive applicant..chance me when you get a chance</p>

<p>good luck!</p>

<p>Where I think you will get rejected: Amherst, Penn, Brown, Yale, Stanford.</p>

<p>Unsure about: Pomona.</p>

<p>Acceptance: Tufts, Cornell, Georgetown.</p>

<p>3.7 is not that great when you will be competing against students with a 3.8 +. Your ECs are weak, as well.</p>

<p>given my profile, why do you think i'll get into cornell CAS? isn't that much more competitive than penn?</p>

<p>Your GPA will be worth more if you're at a top 5 LAC than, say, at #20.</p>

<p>Also, transfer admissions to most of those schools are in the single-digit percentages, so make sure you get safeties in there, which it appears you do not have. Your best chance is at Cornell, statistically speaking. Lowest, Tufts, Yale, Brown, Stanford</p>

<p>I agree with lolabelle. Considering you come from a school not know for grade deflation (Hamilton), and the fact that your gpa is not a 3.8 or higher, you have very slim chances at the majority of your schools (Yale, Brown, Amherst, Stanford). If you were in a top 5, or maybe even top 10 LAC, then your chances would be better. In addition, your ECs are ok/weak. It looks good to be an athlete, but it is not a hook considered for most upper tier schools unless you are an all-star or a recruit. Statistically speaking, Cornell accepts the most transfers and given your stats, georgetown is a good match, as well.</p>

<p>Lastly, you are a college freshman, so your HS record matters a lot.</p>

<p>Maybe you should consider the following: take off Brown and Amherst off of your list and add two safeties or more matches. Perhaps you should consider JHU, Northwestern, WashU, Vanderbilt, Emory, UChicago.</p>

<p>Brown's low but I've seen a few people on here who have 3.6 or 3.7 and have managed to get in
Amherst's is 28/162 according to collegeboard, which doesn't seem terrible...why is it that much of a reach?</p>

<p>Isn't the transfer rate for Tufts a little misleading because, while it's in the single digits, the average applicant is less qualified than the transfers to Cornell or Penn or a similar caliber school?</p>

<p>penn is 231/1861 which seems pretty high, no?</p>

<p>is there a way to get average stats for accepted transfers for these schools?</p>

<p>I forgot to mention that I'm applying to Dartmouth as well, and their stats for transfers are 43/342, which again, seems decent, no?</p>

<p>finally, the main thing for transfers (as i understand it) are college GPA, college recs, essays...3.7's decent for these schools, my recs should be good to great and my essays will be polished...</p>

<p>I don't think Tufts' stats are misleading: if you read old transfer threads, kids got in to Dartmouth and Penn as transfers, but not into Tufts.</p>

<p>i just remember a tonna people getting rejected by Cornell CAS so i thought I'd have a much better shot at Tufts/Penn/Dartmouth/Amherst</p>

<p>Why is Amherst such a reach though? The stats seem to say it's not...</p>

<p>Claymangs, it is known that collegeboard has information from 2 years ago. In addition, Amherst College overenrolled for the class of 2011; this means that they are expected to accept even LESS than last year, which was not 28 students (it was actually 18). From what I heard, they are expected to accept around 5 students this year (out of 300 applicants), or maybe less.
In addition, last years statistics were:</p>

<p>Applied 276
Accepted 18 </p>

<p><a href="http://www.amherst.edu/admission/important_info/61st%20SSR.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amherst.edu/admission/important_info/61st%20SSR.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This information is on their website.
Moreover, that information contains spring admits, so the admit rate is even less than that.</p>

<p>
[quote]
On the East Coast, Amherst College had targeted a freshman class of 440 but ended up with 474 students. Thirty-four extra students may not seem like a lot, but at a small college it can mean increasing the size of some freshman classes. Admissions officers at Amherst had hoped to admit 20 students from the waitlist, but this was the third year they didn't go to the waitlist.

[/quote]

Admissions</a> update</p>

<p>I urge you to search this for yourself, since you seem not to believe me. Google "Amherst overenrolled," and you will see that your assumption is off.</p>

<p>I would also like to mention that it is a known fact that because you are applying as a college freshman, if you could not get in as a freshman into those top selective schools, you will not get in now as a transfer with few units.</p>

<p>As I previously suggested, you should remove both Brown and Amherst from your list in order to have a better chance of getting accepted at more selective schools.</p>

<p>^ ^ In that vein, Tufts also enrolled for the past two years. Overall acceptance will go down for the regular class of 2012, and I imagine transfers apps as well.</p>

<p>ugh that's rough
someone quoted 8% as the transfer rate for cornell CAS, but i found 63/476 for fall 2007
what's the correct figure?</p>

<p>^^thats correct its on their website.</p>