<p>Still seems to me that a handful if people deciding who will "make it" or not is quite arrogant. </p>
<p>Regardless, can someone please list which schools are "cut schools" and which are not....thanks</p>
<p>Just taking a quick look at the schools at the top of the forum, CCM, Emerson, University of Arizona, BOCO and DePaul are cut schools. There are likely others. That doesn't mean that schools that are not "cut schools" don't have juries and evals and that if you continue to perform badly you won't be urged to move to a different program. It's that the juries are used a tool used to evaluate a student's progress, to give feed back and guidance more than as a tool for elimination.</p>
<p>However, if nothing else is clear from all the discussion, it is critical that a student scour the websites for any program they are considering and ask all the right questions at info sessions so that at the time you apply (let alone audition), there is no question about the school's policies, how students are evaluated and whether a student can be forced out as a result of a jury even if the student is making good faith efforts to meet their responsibilities.</p>
<p>It is important to know the cut policies of the MT schools you are considering. There are schools that operate that way. A student goes into such schools understanding that despite his best efforts, he can be cut from the program. This is not the same as not doing well in the program. </p>
<p>In my opinion, the reason these kids are in these programs rather than out there auditioning using precious years of youth that can be important in their field, is for the safe harbor that a college can provide. To pick a college where you can be cut when you know that lots of cuts are coming in the future in the field, seems to me to be undesirable.</p>
<p>They are very upfront about the cuts at BoCo: mentioned them several times during my D's audition there.</p>
<p>Bumping up</p>
<p>I posted this on the CCM cut thread as well</p>
<p>While the debate over 'cut or not to cut' is a fascinating read it is the exact thing that I have found very frightening about this site over the past year or so that I have been involved. The vast majority of parents or students who come here looking for information are not keyed in to the process and are looking for answers. There is a sense of almost desperation to figure out how to do this as right as possible. I have read posts on here where visitors have made blanket decisions about certain schools based solely on what others have posted no matter how many times it has been said to "do your own research." That's why strong voices and opinions can really lead some people astray. I truly think the purpose of this site is to give as many facts and "personal experiences" as possible rather than opinion. It would be far more helpful to those coming here for help to be able to view a thread called THE FACTS ABOUT CUTS AND JURIES. (This would be a short thread and would, hopefully, be locked or labeled "important" so that the information is available to anyone at any time). If there wants to be a separate thread called THE DEBATE OVER CUTS AND JURIES that would be okay but at least break down just the facts somewhere so that people can have information without opinion. I think it would be most beneficial to take the Big List and, after each school, list whether they have a cut policy or not AND define exactly what that means for each school (i.e. cut from program due to a number needed to be reached, cut from program based on jury evaluation, refocused to a different degree program within the department based on jury evaluation, etc.) This will take some actual research by someone who is willing to corespond with each program and get the facts so that they can be listed without emotion or personal agenda. It would be fine to receive 'from the horse's mouth' the criteria behind the cuts but this thread should not debate that criteria or whether it is believed to be right or wrong. It should just list the facts as stated by the department itself.</p>
<p>To quote Sergeant Joe Friday "Just the facts, ma'am."</p>
<p>Generally speaking, CC doesn't allow a post to be put up multiple times. In any case, I responded to the post above on the other thread you posted it on and so I am not going to cut and paste my response here as CC doesn't want to have the same posts going in two places.</p>