Final Decisions; BACKGROUND, Class of 2019

<p>Applied to: Oklahoma City University, Muhlenberg College (finished apps)</p>

<p>In Process Apps: Baldwin Wallace, Wright State, Carnegie Mellon, etc.</p>

<p>Prescreens: None -- was waiting to hear from OCU</p>

<p>Accepted to: Oklahoma City University</p>

<p>Rejected from: No rejections-</p>

<p>Wait-listed at: none</p>

<p>Final Decision: Oklahoma City University BFA Acting (will take extra music courses as well. He also was BM Music.)</p>

<p>Coach: MTCA</p>

<p>Summer Programs: Oklahoma City University Performing Arts Academy (5 weeks)</p>

<p>Background: My son did football for eight years. He was a lineman. He looks like a lineman. In high school he didn't want to do football any more so he finally auditioned for a play in 10th grade. He was in the chorus. I thought he would be an engineer. In 11th grade he was cast as Nicely Nicely Johnson and he told me that he wanted to major in musical theater in December of that year. Before seeing him in the play, I would have steered him in another direction. At the play another mom told me that there were summer programs. After his performance, I had to look into them.</p>

<p>In the way way past, I worked for Houghton Mifflin on an occupational choice product for high school kids for many years. I also took a grad course in counseling. I've created online learning products in the past. When my daughter said she wanted to go into music and be in a rock band I had her touring New England while she was a teenager and asked her after every horrible gig interspersed with the good ones if she still wanted to do this. I had her haul her own gear, set up the sound, stand at trade show booths to get business. She was going to KNOW what it took if she was going to go to music school and it wasn't airplanes and limos. (She is currently a senior at Berklee College of Music. The only school she applied to. Believe me, I begged her to apply to more but she got in early decision and that was that.)</p>

<p>But how do I do this with my son? How does he KNOW what it takes in such a short time? I looked at summer programs, my only option in such a short time period. My son liked OCU's online presentation of the program over all others. It required a prescreen and if we applied by a certain date in January they would take money off the tuition. However, if he got in, he would have to leave his regular school two weeks early. I really looked into the program. He thought he couldn't go because of his regular school schedule. After looking at the program, I told him to apply because I liked the fact that it was 5 weeks. (You need something more than 4 weeks for some of the novelty to wear off, and I was looking for novelty to wear off.) It also had classes and performances. Dance class every day. I wanted him to be just as tired as my daughter was... I wanted an intense environment. It was run by the faculty. It was also less expensive than other similar programs, even with the airfare from Boston to Oklahoma City. (East-coast real estate costs can be brutal and that is passed onto the students.) If he got in, we would just tell the school that he was going and it was a learning experience. If he went and hated it, then it was money well spent because he would choose another direction moving forward. If he went and loved it, then it was money well spent because he would be sure and he would learn new skills.</p>

<p>During the five-week program I heard from my son twice. Once to put money on his card. The second time to send some pants out. (I even reached out to fellow CC'er Addicted2MT to send him a message to call via her daughter.) My husband and I would drive to Oklahoma from Boston for the final performance and then we would drive back to look at colleges if he still wanted to major in musical theater. (And if he didn't, that was fine!) We saw the final performances, we stayed in Oklahoma and had great food, a great hotel, and it was WAAAYYY cheaper than Boston. This was his first choice. He absolutely loved it and this is the direction that he wanted to go in. I was impressed by Dr. Herendeen. I agree that you have to "do" in order to learn the skills, and nothing hones the skills more than preparing for a performance and then delivering. (Each time my daughter was in a Battle of the Bands, the band took their performance to a new level that then stuck.) The fact that they put on Footloose in three weeks was astounding. </p>

<p>My son wanted to go to OCU. We looked at schools on the drive back, Baldwin Wallace, Carnegie Mellon, Wright State, Oklahoma University, Otterbein, Webster... He knew there were other good schools out there and he had a final list, but he loved OCU.</p>

<p>When we were there at the end of the summer program, Dr. Herendeen said my son should try out for acting as well. He was destined to be a character actor with his build. Character actors usually find work.(Yeehaw to that!) Looking at it from a skills perspective, my son really shouldn't spend a lot of time honing his ballet skills. He is never going to be that type of actor. The BFA acting program has vocals, music, and dance. More music can be added. I asked Dr. Herendeen about coaching and he said that everyone should be familiar with the material, however it happens.</p>

<p>I knew that my son wanted OCU, but, of course, there is no guarantee in college admissions. I chose MTCA for coaching as my son had not taken a lot of voice classes, etc. and he needed to close a skills gap in a short amount of time. Five weeks doesn't come close to 10,000 hours. We started the coaching late summer because OCU's early auditions are in November. He also had to take his finals that he had missed earlier in the year in September. (It was a new school policy. Honors physics, etc. after a 2 1/2 month break... whatever... it worked out fine.)</p>

<p>He worked on his audition material, went to mock auditions in NYC with MTCA in early November, and then OCU auditions. While at OCU, we heard from the administration Mark Parker, the Dean, as well as the new Associate Dean of the Theater School who came from USC by way of England, Brian Parsons. OCU also requires that the students audition for just about every play, etc. There are few walls between the programs. They all get along. Everyone knows that Kristin Chenoweth and Kelli O'Hara went there, but Alex Enterline also spoke who just graduated in the BFA Acting program in 2014. He went to the showcase in NYC and was cast because of that in the lead role of the national tour of Nice Work If You Can Get It. He said that the music and dancing in the BFA Acting program prepared him. The auditions just cemented my son's wish that he attend the school. A whole slew of kids that went to the summer program met at a great pizza place in a very artsy section of town near the school. Some of the counselors were there too. </p>

<p>We got the final news in December and received a talent scholarship as well as scholarships for his grades and SATs. My son is going to spend the money that he would have spent going to auditions on piano lessons and taking a Calculus course so he can take more music at OCU. (OCU requires a college math class.) (If there wasn't an associated cost both to my pocketbook and potentially other kids, I would have liked him to have auditioned at other schools for the experience.)</p>

<p>We are done. Good luck to everyone in the coming months!</p>

<p>Congratulations @RockBandMom !!! So glad your S had such a great journey complete with an early-happy-ending! Best Wishes to him in college! I know he will be well taken care of at OCU!</p>

<p>Congratulations! I particularly love stories that involve kids gaining a solid understanding of where they’re apt to fit into the industry post-graduation, and selecting a program and career plan that will best move them toward that specific goal. It always seems a shame to see kids who will never be professional dancers, for example, choosing programs focused on honing folks for dance ensembles. The idea of being a triple threat is awesome, but in reality it seems that most people (particularly females) will work at the highest professional levels only in their areas of true expertise and natural gifts.</p>

<p>With this in mind, our D wanted a school that might position her to work as a straight actor as well as a singer who moves. So far, so good!</p>

<p>Again, congrats to your S on his well-reasoned decision!</p>

<p>Congrats @RockBandMom! So happy for you and your S to have a decision so early in the process. Our D is happy sophomore MT at OCU and could not imagine being anywhere else. Your son is in for a great 4 years! If you have questions, we will do our best to answer them. In the meantime, welcome to the OCU family!
P.s. Katie Posotonik has the lead in the national tour of Ghost and she was also a recent BFA Acting grad. They have many others doing quite well also. It is a great major at OCU.</p>

<p>Congratulations RockBandMom! I remember you and your D’s adventures when my son was planning to major in Jazz Studies, drum set. His path to auditioning for MT had similar timing as your son, and like your son he chose BFA Acting with opportunities for dance, voice, etc. as he is destined to be a character actor (not to mention has flat feet) :). May your son and your family enjoy the rest of his senior year without the auditions!!</p>

<p>Well, well, well - FANTASTIC news! As I began reading this, I didn’t really focus on your CC name, but the story started to sound very familiar - LOL! Could not be any prouder of the way your son worked at this, even though he may have felt that he was a little behind once he knew he wanted to major in this. Especially when you read the prep that so many of these kids put in. It can be freaky (and I may have freaked you out a bit when I sent you some of the stuff that I put together through our experiences, too). I find it incredibly telling that Nicely, Nicely would be your son’s first lead role, because he is such a nice kid! Congrats to you, too, since I think you handled this beautifully, as far as keeping it real. You may always have that bit of doubt as he heads down this path, as we all do with BFA kids, but it is satisfying when they finally get to audition for shows at the college level (at my son’s school, they may not audition until spring sophomore year) and they get a lead role! You feel a little less like the delusional drama-mama when faculty at a great school sees talent in the kiddo, too! Woot woot to Sancho!</p>

<p>Great story! It’s so inspiring to see our kids get their desired wish and without too much suffering. Let’s hope this rubs off on all of us! Kudos!!! :smiley: </p>

<p>Adding my congrats and also a ringing endorsement for ballet study…even (perhaps especially!) for future character actors who happen to be former football players. My longtime O-line son stopped playing in his senior year of h.s., only because of a bad ankle injury, and he’s now taking his 2nd year of dance–in the same BFA acting program as entertainersmom’s son. Acting majors are required to take a full year of dance, and he’s continued voluntarily. He says ballet has strengthened the bad ankle, and he’s also pretty evangelical about how much his football training has helped him with both dance and acting, in so many ways. Cheers to you and your son for being on the other side of the process! :)</p>

<p>Speaking up for another ex-footballer now in his second year of ballet. Even if he never performs as a dancer, it’s done wonders for his personal grace and poise and posture. </p>

<p>^lol, maybe that is why son seems to have grown an inch or two; his posture has improved due to the dance training:)</p>

<p>Times3 - RockBandMom and I talked about your boy at one point! I told her about another football player who was accepted into a fabulous BFA program that only took a handful of kids - and there was room for an artistically talented football player there! And if we start talking about ballet, it is only a matter of time before the conversation turns to dance belts!!! Anyway - again, congrats to the lucky incoming freshman at OCU.</p>

<p>Congrats RockBandMom! Practical and supportive, perfect combination. My freshman MT S is a dancer from way back, but his MT roommate is ex-football/wrestling (yep, knee injury set him on his current path) with a beautiful voice. He HATES daily a.m. ballet class, but I think he’ll see the benefit by the end of the year. Nothing wrong with a lineman who can live in his body and move it well.</p>

@Marbleheader you were the one who started me on this by telling me about summer programs at Guys and Dolls! Thank you!

I too have a football player with 8 years of theater experience in over 20 productions who is auditioning for a bunch of BFA Acting programs starting in less than 2 weeks in NYC. He has very little dance background, mostly tap and a bit of contemporary. He has a great voice, but his lack of dance has kept him from wanting to audition for MT. We have a solid list and all applications are in, but I am sure there is room for one more application last minute for those of you who think his football player type stature (5’ 11" 205lbs) might be suited for a particular program. Here’s his current list of already applied to audition BFA Acting colleges: Pace University, SUNY Purchase, Wagner College, Marymount Manhattan College, Emerson College, Point Park University, Rutgers, Roosevelt CCPA, and the Hartt School. He tends to lean toward urban colleges closer to home (New Hampshire) but we have thrown a few others in there that he was drawn to. It’s impossible to know what each college is looking for in their ensembles, but any advice is greatly appreciated! Good luck all!

@thestage603 This thread/forum is specific to musical theatre programs. BFA MT, BA/BM MT.
I think you meant to post in http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/theater-drama-majors/ if you’re looking for BFA Acting.
But to comment quickly, the schools you chose are great schools, and all very competitive. You should have a safety school in there also. Good Luck!

University of Rhode Island has a non audition BFA, Drew University is a great LAC 20 minutes from NYC in New Jersey…those would be nice safety schools.

I think @thestage603 is looking for maybe an MT school that does not focus on dance and might be a fit for him? CMU (a lottery school I know) doesnt require a dance audition at all for MTs. You do one audition and if they take you place you wherever they want - either MT or acting. If he is a really strong singer and actor and/or has other “niche” qualities, many MT programs would consider him. I would stay away from the “true” conservatories like CCM and BOCO, as they probably want someone who can dance a little bit. (And it sounds like your S does dance a bit). There are plenty of MT students who don’t have a “dance background” – they are too busy with rehearsals!) But honestly, and esp. for boys, if you can move and you have Strong skills in the other 2 disciplines, I would not rule out most BFA MT schools. I would say it is more about what he is interested in doing the next four years – if he is willing and eager to learn dance.

Another New Hampshirite! @thestage603, my son also played football for a couple of years and applied to acting programs because he was worried about his singing/dancing skills. However, he had a bunch of AP credits, so now is able to take two extra dance classes per semester. He’s also taking private voice on the side. He just got cast in an MT showcase for the spring, so, you know, the dream’s not dead yet. (Though I think he’s probably better at straight theater.) Anyway, good luck with stuff, and since I see that CCPA is on your list, hit me up if you have any questions. (That’s where my boy is.)

Thank you Jkellynh17, I certainly will! We have 4 “back ups” that I did not mention as I was just referring to audition programs only. Columbia College of Chicago, Salem State University, Plymouth State University (which has an audition BA program) and URI (which I loved!) And thank you for the suggestion transmom!

and thanks to you too, bisou!