<p>Hi</p>
<p>I'm interested in applying for 2012 admission and have done a bit of research into the US system - feeling a little lost with all the options! Which reputable universities, aside from the Ivy league universities, offer substantial financial aid to international students? Perhaps even meeting the full demonstrated need of all admitted students?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Of the Ivy League: Harvard Yale Princeton Dartmouth are need blind for international
They don’t care about how much you can pay</p>
<p>Cornell Brown Penn and Columbia aren’t need blind they are need sensitive and are known to give generous aid</p>
<p>Out of the Ivy league: MIT Williams Middlebury Amherst are need blind
Chicago Stanford Vanderbilt Rice Vassar Grinnel Oberlin Colgate Colorado Kenyon are known to give great aid</p>
<p>Also add Duke to the list</p>
<p>Amount of financial aid awarded to intl students. Long list, should give you an idea of where to apply to. As you know, these schools will be crazy competitive to get into.
[So</a> You Want To Be Homesick: MUST READ: Amount of aid awarded to international undergrad](<a href=“http://wannabehomesick.blogspot.com/2011/01/must-read-amount-of-aid-awarded-to.html]So”>http://wannabehomesick.blogspot.com/2011/01/must-read-amount-of-aid-awarded-to.html)</p>
<p>Really, unless you are at the top of the top, gaining admissions to those schools need blind to international students is very much like winning a lottery. What you need to do is find some schools that would love to have you because you would be at the very top of their student test score range, and that have no policies against giving international students aid. You can also add those lottery tickets to your list too, but be aware of what they are. Even if a school is not need blind to internationals, it is likely to accept an international student that would enhance its profile, and such schools might provide the aid necessary for such a student to come there.</p>
<p>“What you need to do is find some schools that would love to have you because you would be at the very top of their student test score range, and that have no policies against giving international students aid.”</p>
<p>How can you find those? I have been searching for a long time and the only one’s I found were Brandeis, University of Rochester, Oberlin plus maybe three or four more. All these schools are still quite selective.</p>
<p>“Amount of financial aid awarded to intl students. Long list, should give you an idea of where to apply to. As you know, these schools will be crazy competitive to get into.
So You Want To Be Homesick: MUST READ: Amount of aid awarded to international undergrad”</p>
<p>I do not understand this list. It says, for example, that UCLA awards an average of $43,000 for international students. Yet, when I check UCLA’s site it says: </p>
<p>“UCLA does not award scholarships or financial aid to undergraduate students who are not citizens or permanent residents of the United States. International students must prove that they have sufficient funds available to them to pay for their educational and living expenses. For example, students admitted to Fall Quarter 2011 will need a minimum of over $55,000 (with an additional $5,000 recommended for additional personal expenses, contingencies and summer expenses). This minimum amount usually grows each year.”</p>
<p>([International</a> Students - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/intl.htm]International”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/intl.htm))</p>
<p>How do you explain this?</p>
<p>I already said in my post about some unis that give aid
UCLA and such public universities dont give need based aid they give merit scholarships but I feel thats insufficient for those who want a lot of aid. If you can manage 30k+ you can surely apply</p>
<p>Are Chicago, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Rice, Vassar, Grinnel, Oberlin, Colgate, Colorado Kenyon
also need-blind?</p>
<p>Read Momfromtexas’s thread on full pay colleges. You can adjust the criteria to your stats and you have to make sure there is no restriction on international students. Also many schools with generous merit awards do have no restrictons on international students for those scholarships.</p>
<p>No reason why you can’t include the reach school in your choices, but the real challenge for any student is finding that school that is very likely to accept him/her and that is definitely affordable. Then work your way up with schools with chances of getting both diminishing. But covering that base is the hard part, not picking off the name schools that most people know.</p>
<p>Cptofthehouse, Could you please give me a link to Momfromtexas’s thread on full pay colleges? I wasn’t able to find it.</p>
<p>“Are Chicago, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Rice, Vassar, Grinnel, Oberlin, Colgate, Colorado Kenyon
also need-blind?”</p>
<p>No they are not need blind but they are need based
if you get in however they will try to meet your demonstrated aid</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/291483-update-what-i-learned-about-free-ride-scholarships.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/291483-update-what-i-learned-about-free-ride-scholarships.html</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/148852-what-ive-learned-about-full-ride-scholarships.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/148852-what-ive-learned-about-full-ride-scholarships.html</a></p>
<p>Some extra links I happened on to:
<a href=“http://www.oacac.com/docs/IntFinAid.pdf[/url]”>http://www.oacac.com/docs/IntFinAid.pdf</a> (List of schools offering FA for intl’s)</p>
<p>other links:
[Student</a> Aid on the Web](<a href=“http://studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/intl.jsp]Student”>http://studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/intl.jsp)
[Schools</a> Awarding International Financial Aid](<a href=“http://www.internationalstudent.com/schools_awarding_aid/]Schools”>Schools Awarding International Financial Aid)</p>
<p>I’m a bit skeptical about the list however… It states that BU aided 90 students with awards that averaged 26,000. Yet BU’s website clearly states that it gives no aid to intl students. BU does have good scholarships but not enough to aid 90 international students. Is there something I’m missing?</p>