Financial aid problem

<p>I don’t normally do chances…and certainly NOT on the financial aid forum…but I’ll do this and then say that you’ll get better responses on the Parent Forum (if you want parent opinions).</p>

<p>GPA 3.76
SAT 1820
SAT 30</p>

<p>NYU- I think probably
U.T. Austin- Probably
Columbia- No
Cornell- No
USC- No
UVA- Maybe but it’s certainly not a definite.
Virginia Tech- Probably
U.C. Berkeley- No
University of Florida- Yes
Florida State- Yes
University of Miami- Yes
Arizona State- Yes
Georgetown- No</p>

<p>Kat:</p>

<p>in California, yes. In fact many young adults do such a thing. They move to California, get a job, an apartment, a bank account, register to vote, and pay all of thier bills for a year – zero money from the 'rents. They may even take a course or two at a community college (at OOS prices) to strengthen their app to a UC/Cal State. They may have to appeal for residency, but at that point – one full year, self supporting – it’s a formality.</p>

<p>thumper: being from NoVa with those numbers, UVa is a big reach without a hook.</p>

<p>bluebayou and swimcat – thanks for the info.</p>

<p>In terms of chancing… I do not know much about the private and OOS schools to which you are applying, but…</p>

<p>SAT:1820
Math:580
Writing:550
CR:690</p>

<p>ACT Composite:30</p>

<p>GPA:3.78</p>

<p>NYU - somewhat dependent upon to which school at NYU you are applying… soem schools are more competitive than others… some require an audition, etc…
UVA - Your GPA and SAT scores are not at the top of the pool… ACT composite is closer to top, but, 89% of admitted students at UVA have a 3.75 or higher (or a 4.0 scale)… my guess is that the small percentage under that have a significant hook.<br>
VTech - Your Math SAT is low for Tech, you CR is good. Your GPA is just below the admitted student average (3.85).</p>

<p>You may want to explore schools in VA that are closer to a “sure bet” …</p>

<p>Radford, ODU
CNU, VCU, Mason
JMU</p>

<p>Yes…regarding UVA…maybe a BIG maybe. We know kids from VA with far better stats who were NOT accepted.</p>

<p>* I am trying to mend fences here, I just don’t know if my dad will get over it by the time I have to pay.
*</p>

<p>You have several months to prove yourself to your dad…starting now. If you do what has been recommended to you, your dad will very much likely pay. He’ll be so thrilled with you.</p>

<p>Parents seem to have this inability to stay mad at their kids when their kids are behaving in a very good manner. </p>

<p>What is your mom’s opinion about all of this?</p>

<p>wrt NYU…NYU does not meet full need and practices enrollment management, i.e., grant money to kids at the top of their app pool (that they really want) and loans to those that are lower down the acceptance pool.</p>

<p>bluebayou, Actually it doesn’t matter much if the school meets full need because the impression I get is that the family has no need. So the student must either attend a local college or work their way through with a scholarship or mend fences with the dad who can then pay in full.</p>

<p>Right…one of the earlier posts says that the family contribution estimate is VERY high. This kiddo needs merit aid because he will not get need based aid. We’ve already told him/her that some of the schools don’t even GIVE merit aid…and also that some of the schools have much more competitive scores for merit aid than what he has posted. </p>

<p>BUT having said that…I’m not an admissions person at any of these schools.</p>

<p>OK essentially telling me over and over that I have no realistic shot at any of my prospective schools doesn’t exactly help my situation. You don’t have to post that over and over.</p>

<p>Mom2: My mom wants me to go wherever I want. If it was up to her I could go anywhere, provided I was accepted.</p>

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<p>I actually said you had a chance of acceptance and merit aid at Florida State and Arizona State.</p>

<p>lovinmehard,</p>

<p>We’re trying to help. You just don’t want to hear it. When people say schools are reaches, it pretty much means you probably won’t get in. Columbia, for example, is in that category for you. However, there are THOUSANDS of colleges in this country. There are plenty of places you could attend if your parents are going to pay in full. There are other schools where you might get some merit money (we are saying you’re “competitive” for merit) and might be able to piece together a plan with loans and work to pay for them. And there’s an even smaller subset where you can get yourself through if your dad doesn’t contribute (your local public). </p>

<p>Yes, looking for merit means you need to step away from the top prestigious schools and go down the list. People don’t get MERIT money at their reaches. Schools use merit to attract students who otherwise wouldn’t attend. So yes, the schools that we’re listing as merit possibilities ARE schools you might not choose to attend if you didn’t need merit. </p>

<p>The list of colleges to which you apply MUST reflect your priorities. Since dad MAY come around, keep some expensive schools where you have a good chance (matches). Make sure you have at least one school that you can get through without ANY contribution from your parents. And try to include 4-5 schools where you have a good chance for merit. That probably means that your list has gotten so long that you need to get rid of the reaches that are full-pay but remember, if they’re reaches, you probably wouldn’t get in. (And frankly, we’ve all been turned down from schools or jobs or some other opportunity we wanted. We’re not saying there’s anything wrong with you. We’re just trying to help you have the best options if, in fact, your dad really doesn’t pay for college.) If you think this is too drastic, talk to your parents together. Tell them that if dad isn’t going to pay, you’ll have to change your list immediately because application deadlines are coming up and see what they say.</p>

<p>Your dad is trying to teach you a lesson. From your showing here, you need it; it’s exactly what I would do as your father. Your posts reek of entitlement and immaturity. You need to fix your attitude and grow up. </p>

<p>That’s what your dad is telling you. That’s what people here are telling you.</p>

<p>MisterK: The point of this site, at least as it pertains to me, is to provide a medium by which knowledgeable people can share their collegiate wisdom with those of us who have less insight. Your personal feelings towards me, if I’m being frank, don’t really matter. If you’d like to try and be helpful, like the vast majority of the posters here, I would suggest that you either share some information that you have looked up or already know, or, if you have no information to offer, just don’t say anything at all. I posted on here because I had a problem that I needed some help solving and your spiteful comment is neither helpful, nor constructive. I hope this helps you become a better and more helpful contributor.</p>

<p>lovinmehard: I’ve shared my best information with you. Like your father, I’m a full-pay dad. Like your father, I will give my son exactly what I feel that he needs. That could range from full pay at an expensive private to nothing at all.</p>

<p>I’ve told you exactly what you need to know in order to completely solve your problem. You just don’t get it.</p>

<p>So…what is your new list of schools?</p>

<p>Which are the reaches/matches that you’re keeping in case you’re able to change your dad’s mind?</p>

<p>Which are the schools that you are likely to get a good-sized merit scholarship for your stats?</p>

<p>You might look at UDayton.</p>