<p>hey guys</p>
<p>how big of a deal is the new financial/econ program with kellogg for undergraduates?</p>
<p>is it relatively easy to get into if you are already a student at northwestern?</p>
<p>all the info you need: <a href="http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/certificate/index.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/certificate/index.htm</a></p>
<p>its a pretty big deal since its undergrad and its advanced coursework. at the "Roads to Business" meeting for admits at Preview NU, one of the staff there said that the courses offered in the certificate program, and i quote, "blows anything Wharton has to offer". idk if it was just persuasion but still have to listen to something like that.</p>
<p>its the first year, so competition is unknown, but since only 50 get into each program every year, im sure it'll be competitive.</p>
<p>44 got it, some pretty smart kids (including myself :P) and it is not easy to get in meaning that the prereqs are quite hard. If you cover them and do well (A/A-) you will get in with a pretty high probability.</p>
<p>bumpppppppppp</p>
<p>ha, getting an A/A- in something like econometrics is a task all to itself</p>
<p>atanas_vs,</p>
<p>Why only 44? There supposed to be 50 spots. I wonder why they underenroll for such popular program? :confused:</p>
<p>MMSS people have a huge advantage this year though cos most other people can't gather enough pre-reqs in such short notice. But I am sure you'd get in regardless. ;)</p>
<p>I talked to the dean of McCormick about it (Steven Carr, he was actually my professor one quarter) and I believe he said that honors calculus and honors EA for engineers are prereqs from the engineering school, and the kids in those classes are prettttyyyy smart, and competition against them is pretty hard. </p>
<p>And yes, Kellogg certificate would be a very big deal. Very big.</p>
<p>"I wonder why they underenroll for such popular program?"</p>
<p>Maybe they did not find enough qualified people? You can argue they overenrolled. I'd personally much rather have the program be 20 people (but then maybe I would not be in it?)</p>
<p>it was the first year of the program so i dont think enough filled all the prereqs in a successful fashion. i certainly would not be considering the MENU sequence if it wasnt one of the major prereqs for financial economics certificate. i bet enrollment in the MENU sequence will rise greatly</p>
<p>I bet it will too. MMSS is expanding too. Is it a good thing? I tend to say no.</p>
<p>i dont think its good either. i can already see the first two weeks of overcrowded classes...then people dropping like flies left and right. i hope im not one of them. i have never been this nervous about taking a class before like I am right now about MENU (thanks risingsun).</p>
<p>ridewitbd24,</p>
<p>I think you are right. I didn't realize the math pre-reqs are all honors sequences. The program came out of nowhere earlier this year and there wasn't enough time for most people to fulfill all the prereqs.</p>
<p>"I didn't realize the math pre-reqs are all honors sequences."</p>
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<li>I remember when I was saying that this is sooooo not a business program and people telling me I had no idea what I was talking about..... :rolleyes:</li>
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<p>It does make you wonder what kind of classes they are. I don't think even the Kellogg MBA, or any MBA school in this country, would expect all the incoming business students to have that much math background.</p>
<p>Northwestern has so many math programs, I think it's a great way of getting their graduates a stronger quantitative background. Only so many people are going to get into the Kellogg program, and there are so many pre-requisites that one has to take to get into it. I really want to transfer to NWU, and I'm going to have to start taking quite a few more math classes than I anticipated.</p>
<p>^i think you want to transfer to NU. im not sure though. damn, i think the Penn disease might have affected me</p>
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<p>they don't. it's wild. northwestern's economics program is largely quantitative though, i feel like, compared to economics programs at other universities, so i think northwestern stresses numerical analytics in their pre-business programs.</p>
<p>also high-intensity math classes are to some extent the best way to ascertain people who will have the best analytical minds for business. i know this is a questionable thing to say, but what better way is there? though poli sci classes? math is really the only way to do it.</p>
<p>"though poli sci classes?"</p>
<p>-You'd be surprised just how analytic upper-level political science classes can be....</p>
<p>it's not like i can't handle the math dude, i'm pretty good at math. it's just a lot of classes that i'd have to take that i didn't anticipate taking. it's worth it though, because i think it'll be better in the long run.</p>
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-You'd be surprised just how analytic upper-level political science classes can be....
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<p>which ones? i'm almost halfway through my upper-level sequence :p</p>
<p>i'm only half serious, i know poli sci classes can be analytic, but if you want to get a more objective view on the purely analytic thinkers, i would say math classes are the best way (no way to make answers subject to opinion, etc.)</p>
<p>this was just a general thought i was having, because i also find it somewhat odd that there are such intense math requirements for what has been labelled a business program, and i was just trying to offer maybe some sort of explanation.</p>