Finding the Right Setting

Here it goes… I’ve been looking through the list of schools I’ve applied to so far (UCB, UCLA, UCSC, Reed, USC, UW) and realizing all except Santa Cruz are in very urban settings. I’ve toured each of these schools and haven’t had the feeling that any of them are the best fit, though Santa Cruz was by far my favorite location-wise, it just doesn’t have the best reputation.

In wrapping up my applications (I’m a rising junior transfer), I’m looking to add fairly selective schools with a calm, natural setting. I’m mostly looking on the West Coast obviously, but would be open to applying to schools in the Northeast.

Let me know of any recommendations! (Schools that take the Common App and have March deadlines are a plus)

How about Whitman? Colorado College?

The Claremont Colleges are suburban but definitely have plenty of calm and (manicured rather than wild) nature on the consortium campus and environs, with less-tamed nature fairly accessible nearby.

@aquapt I’ve considered Whitman, though for some reason I’ve heard WA state CC students have trouble transferring credits there. I haven’t looked in Colorado yet.

I’m curious about the story the behind the multiple colleges being located in Claremont. I’ve looked into them a bit, but wasn’t sure what to think.

Thanks for the suggestions!

What about UC Davis? While close to Sacramento, it’s not actually in the city. It’s in an agricultural area about 15 minutes east of downtown.

I’m just curious…you’d prefer a rural setting, but it’s got to be on the west coast or Northeast. When you eliminate 75% of the country from consideration, & that 75% has vast rural areas & hundreds of rural colleges, is it because you’ve been to these areas & disliked them?

@simba9 I agree that Davis might have been a good option, but the UC application deadline passed two months ago, so OP’s selection of UC’s “is what it is.”

We also haven’t talked budget or financial aid eligibility, so we’re not filtering suggestions for affordability. (But if OP can afford Reed and USC, then presumably other full-need-met private colleges would be in range as well.)

Also, OP, a lot depends on what you want to study. You noted in your other thread that you’re potentially interested in design programs, but realize that many are four-year sequences that aren’t accessible to transfers. You mentioned being interested in an environmental major too. Would Environmental Design interest you? The School of Environmental Design at CU Boulder is a very cool smaller program within the larger university, and they do accept transfers, although I think you would have to allow more than two years to finish. https://www.colorado.edu/envd/future-students/transferring-cu

I do recommend looking more closely at the Claremont Colleges; they’re very competitive but your strong record might get you in, and they might provide the balance you’re looking for, of access to a city without always feeling like you’re in a city. (Probably somewhat similar to Lewis and Clark in that regard - another school you might consider as an alternative to Reed - but I assume you’ve probably weighed that possibility already.) Look in particular at the “Sustainability and the Built Environment” track within the Environmental Analysis major, which is based at both Pitzer and Pomona, but also open to Scripps and Claremont McKenna students. The major (which should be possible to complete in two years) combines environmentally focused courses with electives in art and design, art history, and/or architectural history. The Pitzer version of the major is more structured, but their course list gives a good snapshot of the possibilities: http://catalog.pitzer.edu/preview_entity.php?catoid=7&ent_oid=336&returnto=505 (Pomona’s approach is more “whatever your advisor approves.” CMC and Scripps students can choose to declare through either Pitzer or Pomona depending on which version they prefer.) There’s also a film and media oriented major that’s open to all the colleges http://colleges.claremont.edu/mediastudies/ - it isn’t a full-blown film production program but it might be of interest.

Historically speaking, Pomona is the “original” Claremont College, and the others sprang up over time, with Pitzer, founded in the 60’s, being the youngest. The campuses form a fully-adjacent patchwork, all easily walkable (lots of bikes, scooters, and skateboards around too); and the course scheduling is fully integrated with the majority of courses open to cross-registration without administrative or logistical barriers. Each college is distinct, but they are very much symbiotic, and the student community spans the 7K population of the combined schools. Harvey Mudd wouldn’t be a fit for you, but any of the other four might be. Pomona is the most competitive, followed by CMC, Pitzer, and Scripps… but I don’t know how many junior transfers Scripps will take this year, since the class of 2021 is already oversized because of an admissions irregularity that happened with that class. Anyway, the consortium is well worth checking out.

Northeast-wise… Cornell is the one ivy league school that takes a significant number of transfers (more than 500/year), especially community college transfers both from within New York and beyond. It more than meets your desire for natural beauty!! It has an 18% transfer acceptance rate - so, a tougher admit than Berkeley, but not necessarily out of range with your record. It’s kind of a brutal commute from the west coast but otherwise might be worth a shot.

@moooop without going into too many details, it’s a matter of personal preference in social, geographical, and recreational atmosphere. One side of my family is from the south, and I just can’t see myself within the social norms of that landscape. I’d also like proximity to a coast.

@aquapt Thanks for taking the time to respond so thoroughly! You’re correct that I’m looking for a balance.
Ideally, I’d to be able to enjoy a campus removed from a busy urban area, accessible to outdoor activities, but also within reach of networking opportunities. I added Reed to my list a few weeks ago, and just yesterday replaced it with Lewis & Clark. L&C looks like a nice find, I hadn’t looked into it until now.

I’m very familiar with the area of Davis, though I didn’t opt to apply there because of the overall focus on science/agriculture. I’m planning to majoring in visual art/design, preferably in an integrative/open curriculum arts program. Both Env. Studies and Film are minor interests, though it would be nice to find film courses within an arts program.

CMC looks like the best fit of the Claremont Colleges subject-wise, and co-ed. – Berkeley is a tougher OOS transfer admit than the general statistic from what I’ve researched, because the vast majority of UC transfers are from CA CCs. In fact, I would go so far to say there are specific barriers in place for out of state students.

Sounds like you’re narrowing down what you would like. I wouldn’t rule out Santa Cruz if you like it… but on top of being expensive OOS, the housing crunch there is real and off-campus housing is pricey.

In the PNW, maybe U of Puget Sound is worth a look too? Also, why UW and not WWU? Western Washington has both an art major and a design major (BA or BFA) - very good programs - and a suburban campus in Bellingham that seems about right for your criteria.

East Coast wise, maybe check out Connecticut College - the transfer admission rate is higher than the freshman admit rate, where the reverse is often true for similar schools. It’s a fairly “artsy” school with attractive studio programs both in the art department and in the architectural studies major. The coastal location is gorgeous and the whole string of northeastern cities (Boston, Providence, New Haven, NYC) can be reached pretty easily. Skidmore in upstate NY would be another with similar virtues - cool town, lots of nature, a bit farther from the big cities. Wesleyan is another that’s pretty transfer-friendly and could tick the boxes you’re looking for. They house the incoming transfers together and they bond as a group.

Good luck with the process!

@aquapt Thanks! I’ll look into some of these, too. I just started looking at NE schools because the west coast options seemingly ran out. My CC is basically a direct feeder school to WWU, and the rigor and intellectual setting aren’t at the level I’m looking for, and though the location isn’t bad it’s too close to home for me. Aside from schools in the desert of Eastern Washington, UW is really the only well-ranked school in-state, which is too bad because I can’t get comfortable with the area.

Last thought - have you considered heading north across the border? UBC may be too urban for your liking, but UVictoria is in a pretty awesome location and seems to have interesting visual arts programs, with co-op options. (It looks like the transfer application deadline for visual arts is relatively early - end of February for the general application and then a supplemental app with portfolio in early March.) There’s even a ferry from Bellingham to Victoria, isn’t there?

@aquapt I haven’t really considered BC because I want to make sure my credits transfer. It seems if out of state is one issue, international has to be even worse, and then there’s citizenships, visas, etc. – funny because BC isn’t far away from me. The ferry routes to Vancouver Island are either through Port Angeles on the Olympic Peninsula or from Anacortes to Sidney, B.C. passing through the San Juan Islands. Both beautiful trips if you ever get the chance :slight_smile: