Flaw my logic. Please.

<p>thank you nova. theory in scientific terms is not the same as a layman's definition.</p>

<p>and existence of spirits has nothing to do with evolution, one does not prove or disprove the other.</p>

<p>Evolution is a theory. You can't "prove" it, per se, or at least not with the technology that we have today, but there is insurmountable evidence on evolution's side.
I was raised Episcopalian, and until the age of 8 or 9 went to church every other weekend.
My mother is a biology teacher, a firm "believer" in evolution, and teaches it not because the state wants her to but because she thinks it is the right theory.
And these conflicting views, evolution and religion, never even crosses paths.
I don't know if that's really relevant... But I'm trying to say that Christians can believe in anything they want, and such. I don't know. I am the ramble-queen.
But, on the OP's topic...
Hallucinations. Conflicting light sources and dust particles. Faulty electrical systems in the house, causing lights to go on and off, etc.
Things can be explained... 90% of the time.
Evolution means you spawned from bacteria? Eh. The human mind, and our "souls", the spiritual factor that makes us the higher beings (non-animalistic), can not always be explained, and neither can these apparitions that some attribute to the metaphysical, the supernatural, etc.</p>

<p>what really interests me about this thread is that the OP used "flaw" as a transitive verb. i've never seen that before.</p>

<p>urey synthesis ftw!</p>

<p>Evolution is just a theory. Believe whatever you want to, but as of this current day and age, there is no irrefutable proof of evolution being more than a theory.</p>

<p>/End topic</p>

<p>tHERE'S NO IRREFUTABLE PROOF OF ANYTHING LOLZ PYRRHONISM I'M THE FIRST ONE THAT THOUGHT OF THAT EXCEPT FOR PYRRHO</p>

<p>Please stop scaring me. :(</p>

<p>Not directed toward you; I just wanted to cover it before anyone else said it. :]</p>

<p>It was still scary!</p>

<p>I apologize. :]</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>10char</p>

<p>Who is to say that spirits did not always exist? If we are not the only living beings in the universe, then it is quite possible that our "spirits" come from other planets. Or it could just be an aspect to our consciousness that we have yet to discover (believe it or not, science truly cannot explain everything <em>gasp</em>).</p>

<p>I personally believe that every person (and perhaps animals) has a spirit. I am one of those, mediums, we shall say and have been able to see spirits since I was very young. It runs in the family. Call it a hallucination if you must, but I will not attack your beliefs.</p>

<p>Same with my mum. One times she had a dream that her uncle was terribly sick and close to dying. Sure enough, the next day we received a call saying her uncle had died. </p>

<p>Doors open and close when she's around but it's all good. As long as they stay away from me. ;-)</p>

<p>^ Electrical things blow up around me when I'm really emotional... drives my parents crazy. I guess it was worse when I was younger, like things would really go haywire and everything would break. I want science to explain that...</p>

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<p>GIVE ME YOUR TEARS GYPSY WOOMAN </p>

<p>(-10 for anyone who doesn't recognize)</p>

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Okay, it bothers me when people use this argument.
A scientific theory has to be supported by mountains of data before it is elevated from the status of a hypothesis. But science can never be completely sure of anything, so there's no such thing as a "scientific fact." True, evolution is just a theory. So is general relativity, but no one questions that.p

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<p>No one questioned Newton either... until Einstein. :) You're not 100% right, neither am I. Build a bridge...</p>

<p>haha, borat.</p>

<p>"Same with my mum. One times she had a dream that her uncle was terribly sick and close to dying. Sure enough, the next day we received a call saying her uncle had died."</p>

<p>My friend has a cousin who would have a dream in which the family would be playing a game about who would die next. They would spin a spinner and who-ever's name it landed on would be the person to die. A few days later, that person would actually die. This happened to her two or three times. </p>

<p>I think that everybody has a spirit as well.</p>

<p>Nothing has a spirit. There are no such things as spirits. There is no scientific evidence for spirits. People are conscious because of the 'miracle' of evolution.</p>

<p>Somebody asked about spontaneous generation. It was proved that flies and bacteria do not just sprout out of non-life after a couple months time. Recreation of the Earth's early atmosphere has shown the formation of amino acids which would lead on to life. We do not know the whole process though.</p>

<p>I am an atheist because I think that I am more objective/informed/logical than believers in a theity. (New word.) Some believers maybe more educated but as proven by their belief definitely not more logical. </p>

<p>Also people get so torn up over the word life. Evolution does not start at life, it creates life. Stable molecules lead to bigger molecules and so forth until you reach the first replicator and then all hell breaks loose.</p>

<p>I'm reading Selfish Gene by Dawkins. Great book. It explains everything lucidly about evolution and the laws of nature. </p>

<p>And a question no one has ever given me a sufficient answer to is: Why do you believe in God? I challenge everyone.</p>

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I personally believe that every person (and perhaps animals) has a spirit. I am one of those, mediums, we shall say and have been able to see spirits since I was very young. It runs in the family. Call it a hallucination if you must, but I will not attack your beliefs.

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It runs in my family as well. I know my aunt is ridiculously 'psychic.' In me, I can typically 'sense' something and don't always see it, although I have. I've also had loads of dreams come true (scariest one- friend's house down the street burned down the day after).
Call me crazy if you want. I'll just consider you closed minded. And I'm really not that religious... more agnostic theist than anything else.</p>

<p>I don't see what this has to do with evolution though. It neither proves nor disproves anything. (And I'm a 'believer' of evolution myself).</p>