<p>"FIU still has a long way to go to have the highest average salaries.
They have only rescently cracked the 3rd tier. "</p>
<p>Thats flat out wrong.</p>
<p>FIU & UCF are in fact Tier 4 Universities.</p>
<p>FIU graduates do have the highest salaries in Florida.</p>
<p>"In Florida, the top earners graduated from Florida International University—not the flagship Gainesville campus."</p>
<p>I read the article. It didnt provide any statistics by the way so I went ahead and checked them myself.
FIU does report the highest numbers. However:
1. They are only 1,000 higher than second highest UM.
2. FIU numbers on average salaries are EXTREMELY INNACURATE:
- We have no way of knowing how much of the class is represented in this average salary. For all we know its 30%,40%.... In this case the numbers are useless.</p>
<p>UM has almost identical average salaries but their averages represent a large majority of the class. Try getting the large majority of FIU grads and the numbers wont come even close to the 44,000 FIU currently posts. The numbers are misleading is my point. </p>
<p>Dont just base your information of an article that shows no numbers.</p>
<p>SSOBick: thnx for the correction.. I checked and yea FIU is in the 4th tier.
UCF should climb to the 3rd tier though.</p>
<p>"In muggy Gainesville, Fla., where college sports reign supreme, some leaders at the University of Florida are mulling the use of football tickets as a way to entice students to help cut costs.</p>
<p>To motivate students to graduate faster, the university may offer them a better chance of receiving tickets if they take on heavier course loads. The proposed policy is one of several money-saving measures under consideration at the institution, which faces a projected deficit of at least $20-million for the fiscal year that began July 1.</p>
<p>The University of Florida is not the only public college in the state trying to trim costs. After Gov. Charlie Crist blocked a 5-percent increase in statewide tuition in May, Florida's 11 public universities began bracing for a fallout. But the state's slumping housing market helped slow the economy, causing a shortfall in tax revenue that will force the colleges and other agencies to cut their budgets by at least 4 percent.</p>
<p>Now higher-education officials are drawing up plans to further shave costs with hiring suspensions, enrollment freezes, and other money-saving measures.</p>
<p>All told, the state's universities stand to lose at least $100-million with a 4-percent budget reduction, but the universities have been warned to prepare for a cut of up to 10 percent."
COHE</p>
<p>By ANNA SCOTT
Sarasota Herald Tribune</p>
<p>Three years after university officials capped the size of the freshman class at about 6,600, competition at UF is at an all-time high, forcing admissions workers to choose among the brightest and leaving behind an unprecedented number of disappointed families.</p>
<p>Of those who applied to be part of this fall's incoming freshman class, an estimated 42 percent were accepted -- the lowest acceptance rate in the history of the state's public schools.</p>
<p>Not only does the school boast the lowest tuition among similar-sized public schools in the nation, but compared with Florida's other state schools, it has the most rigorous admissions requirements and is ranked highest nationally.</p>
<p>Selectivity at the state's top university is expected to heighten as UF continues to work toward becoming one of the nation's Top 10 public universities -- a status that depends, in part, upon turning away a large number of students.</p>
<p>In 2006, UF turned down more than half of freshman applicants for the first time. It showed in the incoming student body:</p>
<p>The average grade-point averages exceeded an A for the first time -- a first for any school in Florida, including New College, the state's honor college in Sarasota.</p>
<p>And, a record 57 percent of freshman students who were accepted actually enrolled, placing the school firmly in the realm of top picks rather than safety schools. By comparison, 37 percent of students accepted at Florida State University enrolled.</p>
<p>The driving force is Florida's fast population growth: The campus of 50,000 students, the fourth-largest in the nation, is at maximum capacity, said UF President Bernie Machen.</p>
<p>The recently approved tuition increase taking effect in 2008 will be used to pay off debt and begin a years-long process of driving down what has become one of the nation's highest student-to-teacher ratios.</p>
<p>UF's student-faculty ratio is 21-to-1, compared with 15-to-1 at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor and 14-to-1 at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.</p>
<p>Expansion is not in the long-term plan.</p>
<p>"The city of Gainesville has a difficult time accommodating the student body we have now," Machen said. "If fewer want to come here and more want to go to other schools -- that's the only way I can see it getting easier to get admitted."</p>
<p>Educators predict a trickle-down effect will eventually allow the state to offer an education of similar quality through its other 10 universities.</p>
<p>But none yet garner the national prestige of UF, still the only Florida school to belong to the American Association of Universities, a group of the nation's top 62 research institutions.</p>
<p>Campus chatter is a swirl of firsts. This month, the university's endowment exceeded $1 billion for the first time. Faculty produced enough inventions to finish in the nation's Top 10, behind schools like MIT and CalTech. Eight months ago, the school opened the Cancer & Genetics Research Complex, the largest research facility in the state.</p>
<p>In April, UF accomplished an unprecedented athletic three-peat, winning men's basketball, football and men's basketball championships consecutively -- a series of titles some speculate will attract even more applicants to the school.</p>
<p>UF ranks 13th among public universities by U.S. News and World Report. Ten years ago, it was not in the Top 50.</p>
<p>Last fall, almost half of students admitted to the freshman class scored above 1,300 on the SAT's verbal and math sections combined. Ten percent of freshmen admitted in 1994 scored that high.</p>
<p>The jump has impressed professors of even the most competitive programs.</p>
<p>"We always joke with each other: Could we get into our own programs nowadays?" said Dr. Frank Bova, who teaches neurosurgery at UF.</p>
<p>The rise of the University of Florida is partly the result of an effort to raise money for research and recruit star faculty to boost its reputation.</p>
<p>But it is also a pronounced example of what has been happening at public universities around the nation since the 1990s. As more students elect to attend college, and college costs continue to outpace family incomes, public universities become attractive bargains.</p>
<p>Nowhere is that more evident than at UF, which has the lowest tuition for in-state students among major public universities around the country, according to a survey by USA Today.</p>
<p>More than 95 percent of freshmen at UF receive the state's free tuition Bright Futures scholarship.</p>
<p>UF President Machen said the admissions bottleneck is out of the school's hands; they simply cannot take more students.</p>
<p>"It really is unfortunate when you can't let more kids in because you top out," Machen said. "We had 4,000 to 5,000 kids this year who could have done well at the university, but we just didn't have room for them."</p>
<p>The tension is probably most prevalent among alumni.</p>
<p>Paul Robell, vice president for development and student affairs, said the admissions crunch "is all I hear about."</p>
<p>"Even if every spot in the class was devoted to legacies, we would have to say no to over half of them," Robell said. "A lot of alumni remember how it was, and it ain't that way any more, and they have trouble accepting it."</p>
<p>Ames said other students rejected from UF are going out of state or attending the University of Miami, a private school that has increasingly selective admissions and offers scholarships for National Merit students.</p>
<p>haha read the article... I fell its exagerated but ok.
I know plenty of kids that dont have a 4.0 that got into UF.
However I do know a few odd unfortunate apples in the pile with 4.0's that got rejected :O
They still accept over 50% of the applicants. Thats about par with other schools in Florida such as UMiami. FSU should be heading in that direction as well as they are facing to decrease the size of classes. </p>
<p>What was interesting was the last line. No mention of FSU. Normally FSU was second choice to many ppl over UMiami as it was a cheaper school.</p>
<p>"They still accept over 50% of the applicants."</p>
<p>That BS.. </p>
<p>For 2006 they accepted 48%, and for 2007 only 42%. Not only does it say it in the article above, but I will give you a link to the current Freshman Profile.</p>
<p>10,294 out of 24,040 - that equates to roughly 42% overall.</p>
<p>They really do exagerate in this article..
other schools in Florida have an acceptance rate of 40% (UMiami).
Similar admitted students stats and we dont see a whole argument of UF being elitest when it comes to admissions.
Harvard, Yale, Princeton, North Carolina, Stanford might be considered Elitest but not UF and even UM which only accepts 40% of the applicants.</p>
<p>I know kids that got in with averages under 4.0. But like I said I know a few that got turned down with 4.0's. It happens. </p>
<p>My Point: UF is definately ahrd to get into if ur Out oF state. In State its still very tough and its getting tougher every year. We all know that. But again, we dont have to exagerate in this article about how 4.0 students are getting turned down. Most get in, and every eyar there is a minority of 4.0'ers that get turned down. but this happens at many schools around the country not just in Florida. Even In UM a friend of mine had a 3.8 and 1950 on the SAT and got waitlisted. later got offered admission in January but again a weird case and im sure u can find them anywhere.</p>
<p>I will agree on one thing. UF has really gotten tough in admissions and in the future will get only tougher.</p>
<p>University of Miami seems to of plateaued, whereas Univeristy of Florida is on the rise. Expect this trend to continue in the next rankings as well.</p>
<p>Plateaued.... I dont wanna turn this into another debate like the other Florida debates but Plateaued..... Have thye not gone from 65 all the way to the low 50's in less than 3 years or so. Their endowments have skyrocketed : 1.2 Billion. <a href="http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/home.html%5B/url%5D">http://www6.miami.edu/campaign/home.html</a>
their research funding is now second in Florida....
They have grown more selective. Lowest accpetance rate in Florida....
Plus the 13:1 student to faculty ratio is very attractive and should def help the school progress even more.
So rankings, selectivity, research, endowments, teaching quality has all improved dramatically.... Expect THE U to continue this wild streak in to 2008 rankings :D</p>
<p>as to UF.... Its going to def go up as well. im not gonna say its Plateaued. Unlike you I research before I reach to that conclusion...</p>
<p>"Unlike you I research before I reach to that conclusion..."</p>
<p>Actually UM just had a $1.2 billion capital campaign. That does not mean that your endowment is that high. Besides you raised those funds over a 7 year period (1999 - 2006). That money went to building infasturcture, hiring professors, and daily operations.</p>
<p>As of January - 2007 UM's endowment is currently ranked 96th overall. Grand total $620 million.</p>
<p>Still its been on a big uprise.. 18 % increase. I wouldnt call that a Plateau as UF has 19% and its on an uprise.....
aside from that the rankings have increased dramatically as have the research funding, selectivity (40% acc rate) etc....</p>
<p>Plateaud... I still dont get where u got that from...</p>
<p>According to US News:</p>
<p>UM (2006) = 54</p>
<p>UM (2007) = 54</p>
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<p>I believe it's hard as heck to even move up a couple spots, once you make it to around the Top-Tier. Sure it's easy to go from the Mid 60's to the Mid 50's, but for UM it will be very very hard to make it to the Mid 40's. This is why I believe University of Miami has leveled out. This Private University doesn't have the research, endowment, prestige, or the Graduate Programs to be on par with say: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or Case Western.</p>
<p>In fact I would be suprised if they can even stay in front of: GWU, Pepperdine, or Syracuse.</p>
<p>Yea well Your gonna be quite surprised this August when the rankings come out SSobick. </p>
<p>First off... UM did improve rankigns wise. it was in 2006 ranked in the #55... Now its ranked #54. We shall see in August. many predict it to get better. </p>
<p>UF was ranked #50 a year ago and now is #47. not much of a difference in change either from one year to another. Nevetheless It is improvement. </p>
<p>I have yet to find in Endowments, research funding, Selectivity and rankings where UM has fallen or stayed the same. in all the aforementioned categories, UM has increased. In florida out of the 3 best schools (UF, FSU and UM) is the youngest yet has accomplished so much. It has achieved to rank better than FSU (the oldest in Florida) and par par with the University of Florida. To say that it has reached its toll is stupid considering everything it has achieved since the Sun Tan U era in the 80's.</p>
<p>I am not saying UM is not improving. Each and every single day I am sure they are getting a little better.</p>
<p>But do you honestly think: GWU, Pepperdine, Syracuse, BU, Tulane, Case Western, and RPI are just standing still? Clearly these institutions want to be Top-Private Universities as well. My point was that it was easy for Miami to beat out like American and SMU, but now they are competing against some really strong institutions. I just do not think they are going to be blowing by them anytime soon.</p>
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<p>"Yea well Your gonna be quite surprised this August when the rankings come out SSobick." - I guarantee they do not make the Top-Tier.</p>