"Flummoxed" by new SAT Score Choice Policies? Check out the NYT's "The Choice"

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<p>kinda unrelated but u said only 10 versions max</p>

<p>what if ur applying to more than 10 schools?</p>

<p>^ most likely you will find that within the group of school to which you are applying there will be clusters that you will be wanting to send the same data. What I would do is once you know the schools you are applying to, look up their score choice policies and makes lists of which ones share the same requirements. Then you complete submit those applications in batches. It sounds awful, but it really was not hard. Regardless of score choice, it is a great option especially if you might want to customize which essays are going to a particular college.</p>

<p>I agree with Sally_Rubenstone’s point that score choice makes it harder for applications but, for me, I feel like its hard part is much earlier on and involves the decision making of when and if a particular exam should be taken. The extra work on the actual application is small compared to deciding the impact on a future application of taking a particular test. I am very glad that I am done with college applications in my house.</p>

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<p>Sally, you raise a good question bcos the technology already exists within CA to suppress scores. For example, when Wake Forest went test optional last year, they got CA to suppress all test scores before the file is submitted to that college. The Wake CA supplement even include a notification to the applicant that self-reported test scores will NOT be submitted to the college.</p>

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<p>True, but don’t blame CB (which is a money-making machine); blame the colleges for demanding all CB scores. Again, Yale is silent on whether an applicant has to submit (and pay for), all ACT scores. Why the inconsistency between tests?</p>

<p>Actually, Yale says a student must submit scores from all sittings of the ACT test if she’s relying on the ACT. But, sensibly, Yale says the student need pay for only the highest score to be reported officially. The others can be reported on the app directly. Otherwise, a student would have to pay for each test date to be sent, which is the situation at many other schools. This is unlike the SAT, where the fee for reporting covers any or all SAT exams.</p>

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<p>It maybe “sensible” but it is also inconsistent policy… :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Welll… it’s consistent in that Yale requires all scores for whichever test the applicant relies on - no discrimination between ACT and SAT. But I guess it is inconsistent in that it gives applicants an easier opportunity to lie about the ACT but the not SAT.</p>

<p>…and how do the colleges get the information that a student sat for a particular SAT or not? College Board has stated that they will not give out that info–it is a privacy issue–and if a college calls they will be told to discuss the matter with a student.</p>

<p>I think the biggest reason to use score choice is if a student wants to take practice SAT’s (perhaps at the beginning of junior year) or if they want to take one extra SAT in senior year. Since many schools do not want to see students have more than 3 scores, it is an opportunity for students with the means and the desire to have more than 3 sittings.</p>

<p>I would say that it is not worth the risk to lie. Any slip up by the applicant, their school, the recommendations, interview, cb etc then I am sure they would be automatically rejected. I would advise my kids to stay honest.</p>

<p>While it’s certainly not worth the risk (nor the bad karma!) to lie, it does seem rather ironic–or perhaps downright unfair–that the students (and parents) who are the most attentive to each college’s score-report requirements–and who are the most careful to follow all rules–may end up being penalized for their conscientiousness and honesty.</p>

<p>There are sure to be hundreds of applicants (especially in this initial Score Choice year) who do not report all required test sittings to their target colleges … not due to intentional cheating (though there will surely be some of that as well) but due to lack of information. Many guidance counselors will not be on top of new policies and many families will not do the required research themselves. So, those students who do take the time to seek out and abide by all the varying score-reporting rules may end up showing themselves in a less favorable light than those who withhold some scores … even if the mistake is an honest one.</p>

<p>Yale says, “we require that students pay to send at least one official ACT score report and self-report all other ACT results. We will confirm self-reported test results if we feel it is necessary.” This suggests that they have a way of finding out if applicants have reported all their scores. While CB and ACT, may not be able to release actual scores without permission, they probably have agreed to tell colleges how many tests a kid has taken if asked. Why shouldn´t they? Kids are asked to attest to the accuracy of everything in the application. Colleges should be able to verify anything in it and issue an automatic denial if a kid has not been forthcoming.</p>

<p>Sally - I’m with you on this. It is frustrating to know that my own kid will forego some benefit by following the rules, while others either intentionally cheat, or inadvertently fail to report what the college requires. And Wildwood, that’s a good point - I hope the colleges that have rejected scorechoice will at least do some spot-checking.</p>

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<p>Federal privacy laws preclude it, that’s why. OTOH, Yale (and other colleges) could make a condition of acceptance – or even application – that the acceptee sign a release that allows the college to ask CB and ACT for scores.</p>

<p>Bluebayou, that may be the case, but are you really sure the law covers notification that the student has used the CB or ACT services and the number of times? Businesses release the names of some customers without special permission all the time, usually to attract new customers. The privacy law doesn´t seem to cover this, but I´m no legal expert. Of course, they can´t release the scores themselves, but all the schools that reject score-choice need to know is if the applicant is trying to hide scores.</p>

<p>^I wonder, too. Colleges must get all kinds of information and names from ACT and CB, as evidenced when they send letters to National Merit finalists and others. They might not get exact scores, but they must get lists of students in a score range. If they can get that legally, they surely can find out if a student sent all scores or only the highest.</p>

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<p>Correct, IFF the student signs up for College Search (or whatever they call it) when s/he registers for the test. But, if student checks, “Do not send me any college info” (or something to that effect), such student’s score range will not be released (and they won’t receive much college mail).</p>

<p>i’m a little confused
do colleges know if you didn’t report/send them a SAT score?
i’m about to take the SAT a second time, and i do not want to pay to send both SAT’s…</p>

<p>Pumpkinpi, I suspect it´s simpler than that. I think that colleges have such a relationship with the CB that they can just directly ask : “Did this student respect our score choice policy?” or “Were there any other tests taken beside the ones on xx/xx/xx?” Remember, the CB has to keep their college clients just as happy as their student customers, if not more. </p>

<p>Of course, this is just my guess, but I´d never encourage anyone to risk not following a school´s policy.</p>

<p>Way to invalidate your own tests, CB, good job. All something like score choice does is give students with more means financially one more way of cheating the system. Anyone else see some major ethical problems here? If you want an accurate indicator of potential, allowing multiple practice attempts and especially then allowing someone to hide all but their best one is just asking for failure.</p>

<p>lemonio - Unlike ACT, for SAT the cost of sending one test vs two tests is the same. The cost of sending both tests will not be an issue for you.</p>

<p>[Will</a> colleges know if I use SAT Score Choice™?](<a href=“Examiner is back - Examiner.com”>Examiner is back - Examiner.com)</p>

<p>This is a story i found on the whole SAT score choice issue. Basically the writer claims that she had heard directly from the CB that colleges will not know if students use score choice.</p>